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Old 09-17-2012, 05:00 AM   #3301
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OK, I'm lazy as hell. Will someone post a report on the Chinese suspension that comes oem on this beast. Is Ohlins going to have an aftermarket upgrade on it?
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:16 AM   #3302
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Last i heard it's Showa sourced out of Spain and Sachs of Germany.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:44 PM   #3303
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No, they are Kayaba 46mm upside down forks, 190mm travel on the front and Kayaba monoshock with remote oil reservoir, hydraulically adjustable preload, rebound damping adjustment, 194mm rear wheel travel on the rear. I know what to expect from Showa and Sachs. Kayaba is a different story.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:01 AM   #3304
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Well - you learn something new every day..
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:41 AM   #3305
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No, they are Kayaba 46mm upside down forks, 190mm travel on the front and Kayaba monoshock with remote oil reservoir, hydraulically adjustable preload, rebound damping adjustment, 194mm rear wheel travel on the rear. I know what to expect from Showa and Sachs. Kayaba is a different story.
Kayaba = made in Indonesia.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:46 AM   #3306
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Kayaba = made in Indonesia.
Triumph = could be made in Thailand. Your point is ?

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Old 09-18-2012, 06:05 AM   #3307
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Triumph = could be made in Thailand. Your point is ?

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My point is, I've not seen any reports on their (Kabaya) reliability, adjustibility and longevity and want to hear from someone who knows something about it. On this side of the pond, we call it due diligence.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:06 AM   #3308
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My point is, I've not seen any reports on their (Kabaya) reliability, adjustibility and longevity and want to hear from someone who knows something about it. On this side of the pond, we call it due diligence.
Well since the explorer is only a new model two of your three concerns are to us the buying public unknown. We can only go on the perceived reputation of Kayaba, which are used by a lot of major manufacturers somewhere in their range. As for adjustability surely looking at one / Triumph website will tell you that. Problems concerning reliability can be readily addressed in the Warranty period.
Sometimes I think we go ott on the minutia of a bike - the parts and the sum of the parts. Don't remember the last time I was concerned about the suspension / lights / instrument layout of a car I was considering buying.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:12 AM   #3309
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I gotta laugh a little. My first Triumph was a '73 Tiger. It shook so much the front fender supports broke in the first 100 miles. And I'm not going to get started on the Lucas electrical system. I'm OCD about the bikes i buy so I'll wait for some more replies. I've got a great bike already so there is no big hurry.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:27 AM   #3310
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I gotta laugh a little. My first Triumph was a '73 Tiger. It shook so much the front fender supports broke in the first 100 miles. And I'm not going to get started on the Lucas electrical system. I'm OCD about the bikes i buy so I'll wait for some more replies. I've got a great bike already so there is no big hurry.
I would give it a year as it'll take a while before reports start to come in as mileage builds. Maybe the 2015 model Explorer is your best bet because by then we will have had a year of data on the reliability of the new BMW1200 and you'll be able to compare as well as test ride. With your current stable the wait shouldn't be too painful
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:26 PM   #3311
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:48 PM   #3312
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My point is, I've not seen any reports on their (Kabaya) reliability, adjustibility and longevity and want to hear from someone who knows something about it. On this side of the pond, we call it due diligence.
You kidding, right? Kayaba is one of most known names in dirtbikes suspension and one of (if not) largest suspension components manufacturers in the world with plants all over the globe including Indonesia. Like say WR and YZ, TTRs, R1s Yamahas? DRZs Suzuki? GSXRs? Kawasaki KX? Factory kits for pro racers on dirt and SB? CRF450?
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #3313
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What's Kayaba?


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Old 09-18-2012, 03:17 PM   #3314
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Interesting ... so are you saying the valves get checked/adjusted at 10,000 miles and then never again?

Funny but maintenanice costs are important factor for me and have heard different intervals for the explorer. Last I read was valves are every 20,000 but man 10K and forget it sounds better! I did hear the cost to DO the valve adjustment can be 5+ hours labor???
That's what the maintenance schedule shows
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:24 PM   #3315
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Same as Kabaya but without typo

It's suspension OEM for Explorer.
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