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Old 09-21-2012, 12:31 PM   #52621
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For a bike they've been building since the dawn of time, Kawasucky has no excuse for that crap.

I always wondered that myself. My neighbor has one, bought new left over, put 4000 miles on it this summer and the whole top end went south. Kawasaki and the dealer said sorry so he had it rebuilt by non-dealer bike shop, Pinwalls
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:34 PM   #52622
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In the search for the perfect bike, we are leaving my place around 9 am tomorrow and heading toward danville with no particular plan other than riding gravel.

If anyone else is game, we can make up a time to meet somewhere.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:47 PM   #52623
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In the search for the perfect bike, we are leaving my place around 9 am tomorrow and heading toward danville with no particular plan other than riding gravel.

If anyone else is game, we can make up a time to meet somewhere.
Got room for me? Should I load up some GPS routes? Is Mt Vernon a good place to meet up or do you go around that mess?
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:56 PM   #52624
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For a bike they've been building since the dawn of time, Kawasucky has no excuse for that crap.
My Kawasucky Ninjette had a nut fall off one of the connecting rods because it was not torqued properly. I found the nut and bolt in the bottom of the crankcase in pristine condition. :( Of course when metal fatigue set in on the other one it let go and caused a big mess. I have some nice pics of the mess after I tore the engine apart.

I need to find another engine for it. It's been taking up garage space since last may when it went kaput...
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:11 PM   #52625
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Dust? Why is dust affecting your oil? Your breather should either be breathing between your air filter and cylinder or have a filter on the end or at least some foam in the tubing.
Microscopic contaminants are inevitable, it's not a closed system. The filters common to bikes are suitable for the size of dust that score metal, clog carbs and increase wear, but they do not normally filter the really tiny stuff. That's what your oil soaks up. The more dust you subject your bike to, the more gets in.

Send a couple samples to Blackstone some time, one after a dusty all dayer and one after the same amount on the street.

Hell, just look at the oil.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:53 PM   #52626
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In the search for the perfect bike, we are leaving my place around 9 am tomorrow and heading toward danville with no particular plan other than riding gravel.

If anyone else is game, we can make up a time to meet somewhere.
I can't ride but do you guys have a breakfast plan, because I can meet for a little bit.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:54 PM   #52627
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In the search for the perfect bike, we are leaving my place around 9 am tomorrow and heading toward danville with no particular plan other than riding gravel.

If anyone else is game, we can make up a time to meet somewhere.
I am kind of a game time decision based on the weather since I am an hour and a half from Danville. What time is the new time to meet in Danville if you are leaving your place at 9?
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:45 PM   #52628
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Microscopic contaminants are inevitable, it's not a closed system. The filters common to bikes are suitable for the size of dust that score metal, clog carbs and increase wear, but they do not normally filter the really tiny stuff. That's what your oil soaks up.
Plausible, but I'm guessing no where near what comes through as blow-by.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:54 PM   #52629
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Great ride yesterday! It was almost 10 and a half hours and right on 400 miles for me. About time for another oil change .


More importantly.... perhaps some of you remember my Buell Ulysses woes; the reason I bought my Tenere back in March.

Quickest recap ever: Very minor oil seepage... brought it in for warranty repair. Problem got worse... brought it in for more warranty repair. Problem got worse... brought it in for more warranty repair, this time they needed to replace the cases, which means engine rebuild. Next oil change found bearing parts in the tranny fluid... brought it in for more warranty repair, to get to the tranny they have to split the cases again, another motor rebuild, this time with tranny rebuild. {at this point in time I bought the Tenere, planning on selling the Uly whenever I got it back from this rebuild} 50 miles after I got it back from the second rebuild, it exploded oil everywhere, and was a mess. Noticeable minor issues, as well as the catastrophic oil issue. {Bike is still under warranty, closing in on 3 years old, 29,000 miles}

At this point in time I wrote up a report. One hell of a report. Diagrams, documents, images, time lines, causes/effect summarys. A 26 page report. I sent it to Harley Davidson, the local (servicing) dealership, and the dealership I originally purchased it from (and hadn't spoken too since, they're out of state).

My report (in as respectful a way as possible) blamed the local servicing dealership for all the problems, and expectedly, they were all pissed off and unhelpful. The dealership I originally bought it from was extremely helpful, but limited in what they could do. Then I got a hold of Harley. Things began coming together. They were understanding, supportive, and helpful! Long story slightly shorter, Harley asked how much I wanted out of the bike, they agreed to my number, and they bought the bike back! And not only that, they came and picked it up, check in hand.


So, out of respect for those that were helpful, I feel the need to name drop here...

AD Farrows here in Columbus/Delaware should be avoided for Harley/Buell work. The techs are incompetent, plus the majority of the employees have the worst kind of personalities. Sorry, but I've worked with them way more than I wanted to over the past 2 years, and these are my official findings.

Harley, like, corporate Harley, really pulled through and did the right thing. Sure they may make chrome couches and more clothes than half the clothing brands out there. But I had everything going against me; discontinued bike, high mileage, already bought a replacement out of the family, etc, yet they really came through here. I have a new found respect for the company. (Still no respect for the pirate/poseur Harley riders though, see South Park episode "The F Word")

And finally, Valley HD & Buell in Belmont, OH and Wheeling, WV. These guys worked with Harley to finish everything up and complete the deal. Great to work with, persistent, friendly... Recommended.


That is all! Carry on with your regular ADV convo's.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:57 PM   #52630
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Oil? Damn I knew I was forgetting something...lol

I have to fill up with oil and check the gas in my '08 KLR. It uses about a quart every 500 miles... :(
It's that new feature kiwi built into it to best the Dr and xr, self changing oil.

No, it's not leaking oil, it's just sweat from all that horsepower.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:11 PM   #52631
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Plausible, but I'm guessing no where near what comes through as blow-by.
Intake boots of all my bikes have always been clean, but if I ride in the dust a lot the oil blackens faster. Tells me that the 1 & 2 micron stuff is making its way in.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:57 PM   #52632
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Late to the party....

Great ride yesterday! It was almost 10 and a half hours and right on 400 miles for me. About time for another oil change .


More importantly.... perhaps some of you remember my Buell Ulysses woes; the reason I bought my Tenere back in March.

Quickest recap ever: Very minor oil seepage... brought it in for warranty repair. Problem got worse... brought it in for more warranty repair. Problem got worse... brought it in for more warranty repair, this time they needed to replace the cases, which means engine rebuild. Next oil change found bearing parts in the tranny fluid... brought it in for more warranty repair, to get to the tranny they have to split the cases again, another motor rebuild, this time with tranny rebuild. {at this point in time I bought the Tenere, planning on selling the Uly whenever I got it back from this rebuild} 50 miles after I got it back from the second rebuild, it exploded oil everywhere, and was a mess. Noticeable minor issues, as well as the catastrophic oil issue. {Bike is still under warranty, closing in on 3 years old, 29,000 miles}

At this point in time I wrote up a report. One hell of a report. Diagrams, documents, images, time lines, causes/effect summarys. A 26 page report. I sent it to Harley Davidson, the local (servicing) dealership, and the dealership I originally purchased it from (and hadn't spoken too since, they're out of state).

My report (in as respectful a way as possible) blamed the local servicing dealership for all the problems, and expectedly, they were all pissed off and unhelpful. The dealership I originally bought it from was extremely helpful, but limited in what they could do. Then I got a hold of Harley. Things began coming together. They were understanding, supportive, and helpful! Long story slightly shorter, Harley asked how much I wanted out of the bike, they agreed to my number, and they bought the bike back! And not only that, they came and picked it up, check in hand.


So, out of respect for those that were helpful, I feel the need to name drop here...

AD Farrows here in Columbus/Delaware should be avoided for Harley/Buell work. The techs are incompetent, plus the majority of the employees have the worst kind of personalities. Sorry, but I've worked with them way more than I wanted to over the past 2 years, and these are my official findings.

Harley, like, corporate Harley, really pulled through and did the right thing. Sure they may make chrome couches and more clothes than half the clothing brands out there. But I had everything going against me; discontinued bike, high mileage, already bought a replacement out of the family, etc, yet they really came through here. I have a new found respect for the company. (Still no respect for the pirate/poseur Harley riders though, see South Park episode "The F Word")

And finally, Valley HD & Buell in Belmont, OH and Wheeling, WV. These guys worked with Harley to finish everything up and complete the deal. Great to work with, persistent, friendly... Recommended.


That is all! Carry on with your regular ADV convo's.
That is great news Mike !
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:07 PM   #52633
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Late to the party....

Great ride yesterday! It was almost 10 and a half hours and right on 400 miles for me. About time for another oil change .


More importantly.... perhaps some of you remember my Buell Ulysses woes; the reason I bought my Tenere back in March.

Quickest recap ever......

Wow, really glad to hear that your Uly saga finished with a happy ending. I remember seeing your Ulysses all tore apart up at AD Farrow when I stopped in there one time and have followed your updates here and on BadWeb.

I often think of selling mine because of all the reliability issues you read about on the web but have never been able to bring myself to do it because: 1 - it has been very reliable, 2 - it's paid for, 3 - it's such a fun bike to ride.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:21 PM   #52634
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For a bike they've been building since the dawn of time, Kawasucky has no excuse for that crap.
Thailand vs. Japan. Pre 08 bikes have very few problems other than than the doohicky. I know a fella that had a new 08 with no power & used oil like crazy. Turned out the bore was oval. I can run my 93 as hard as I want & it seems to never use a drop.
It's the same reason I'm skeptical of the CRF250L, but the Thai cbr250 seems to be doing ok.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:23 PM   #52635
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Thailand vs. Japan. Pre 08 bikes have very few problems other than than the doohicky. I know a fella that had a new 08 with no power & used oil like crazy. Turned out the bore was oval. I can run my 93 as hard as I want & it seems to never use a drop.
It's the same reason I'm skeptical of the CRF250L, but the Thai cbr250 seems to be doing ok.
My buddy's 09 doesn't have any of the issues others report; 30k miles on it now. He got lucky though, I have read of numerous with issues.
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