ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-22-2012, 06:51 AM   #30691
ArmyJoe
Beastly Adventurer
 
ArmyJoe's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Location: Columbus, OH
Oddometer: 1,097
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee Bill View Post
Plus whoever buys the bike isn't stuck with my idea of how it should be, especially the seat, tank and racks. Those can be very much personal preferences.
I said the same thing to my wife. She bought a Buell Blast, a former Rider's Edge trainer, as her first bike. After spending some time on http://badweatherbikers.com, she modified the heck out of it. I kept telling her that the next owner may not want all that stuff and she may have a hard time selling it. She did her own thing in the end (and did a great job), but she kept all the stock parts in a box.

No pics of wife, but here's her bike (before and after):







__________________
2009 Can-Am Spyder RS, 2008 Yamaha WR250R

My latest adventures detailed at ArmyJoe's Perpetual Picture Thread:
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=888783
ArmyJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 08:28 AM   #30692
Sock Monkey OP
Corporate slave
 
Sock Monkey's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA, Earth
Oddometer: 1,965
Quote:
Originally Posted by KansasBob View Post
Some FI systems use a "closed loop" system with an O2 sensor that actually looks at the exhaust, but the WR does not. It changes the map to compensate for changes in altitude, and air temp with sensors for those values...... but it assumes constant intake and exhaust restriction as a base line for the map. I think? Changing either the intake or exhaust restriction will lean the mixture and the computer will have no way of knowing without an 02 sensor in the loop.
You nailed it Bob.

Of course, if someone wanted to spend the $$, they could purchase a PC-V w/ Autotune and weld a bung for the O2 sensor into the header, and then let the PC-V operate in closed loop mode. The nice thing about going that route is you don't need access to a dyno to get the right A/F value across the rev range, because the PC-V w/ AT will do it for you. You also don't need to twiddle a bunch of map entries, but that option is there if you're so inclined. I could only see going that route though if you wanted to squeeze every bit of performance out of the motor, or if you did the big bore mod. Otherwise, IMO you can get really good results with an EJK, etc., just with their as-shipped-from-the-factory settings.

-SM
__________________
aka NoVector
Current: 2012 Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX, 2008 Yamaha WR250R
Gone: Ducati Multistrada, Moto Guzzi Norge, BMW R1200GS, BMW F650 GS Dakar, KTM 520 EXC, Suzuki DRZ400E, and the list goes on.......
Sock Monkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 09:33 AM   #30693
ramz
Professional Trail Rider
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Salida, CO
Oddometer: 1,955
Quote:
Of course, if someone wanted to spend the $$, they could purchase a PC-V w/ Autotune and weld a bung for the O2 sensor into the header, and then let the PC-V operate in closed loop mode.
Someone did:

http://rickramsey.net/WR250Rtuning.htm
ramz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 09:49 AM   #30694
HardWorkingDog
Harvey Mushman
 
HardWorkingDog's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Walnut Crick, Cal.
Oddometer: 1,673
Quote:
Originally Posted by ramz View Post
It's been awhile since you updated; it's not real clear to me (an admitted dunderhead) whether all that time and money was worthwhile to you. Did it give you a worthy increase in power over the FMF PP?
__________________
"Coffee first..."

Next Trip: Divide & Conquer...


"it's a dog's life.............and I love it"
HardWorkingDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 09:59 AM   #30695
ramz
Professional Trail Rider
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Salida, CO
Oddometer: 1,955
Quote:
it's not real clear to me whether all that time and money was worthwhile to you. Did it give you a worthy increase in power over the FMF PP?
The time and money were well spent. My WRR runs better than I ever hoped. Yes, better than with the FMF PP.

And much better than my new 2013 CRF250L. Looks like I'll be getting a PCV/AT for it when they become available. And probably an FMF muffler and MB header.



About the lack of updates - the PCV/AT does it's thing and there's really nothing to report. All systems GO.
ramz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 10:33 AM   #30696
HardWorkingDog
Harvey Mushman
 
HardWorkingDog's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Walnut Crick, Cal.
Oddometer: 1,673
Thanks!
__________________
"Coffee first..."

Next Trip: Divide & Conquer...


"it's a dog's life.............and I love it"
HardWorkingDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 11:15 AM   #30697
bhd1223
Gnarly Adventurer
 
bhd1223's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Location: CT
Oddometer: 293
Quote:
Originally Posted by ramz View Post
The time and money were well spent. My WRR runs better than I ever hoped. Yes, better than with the FMF PP.

And much better than my new 2013 CRF250L. Looks like I'll be getting a PCV/AT for it when they become available. And probably an FMF muffler and MB header.



About the lack of updates - the PCV/AT does it's thing and there's really nothing to report. All systems GO.
Looking through your site made it sound like you could hook up the PCV and AT, set the A/F, and just let it run. Did you do all the extra work for the individual gear maps and so you had maps saved?
__________________
WR250R - perhaps the ideal motorcycle for myself
Throw in a passenger and I'm unsure of what I'd consider ideal. Maybe a Multi?
I am now for sure sold on the Dual Sport style bike.
Keeping the Vulcan for now. The ladies seem to love it.
bhd1223 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 11:26 AM   #30698
Reposado1800
Juicy J fan!
 
Reposado1800's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: 5th and Main
Oddometer: 5,741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly705 View Post
Here is a pic and the mods

Go Race Suspension front and rear
Renthal Bars
Flatland radiator Guard
Flatland Skid Plate
EE aluminum hand guards
FMF pipe with Power Commander V

How much is the full go race package running now? I am hoping to send my stuff off in 2 months and it looks like Go Race has the WRR dialed in to perfection.
__________________
Hate gets you nowhere.
Tequila is a weapon of mass destruction.
Reposado1800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 11:56 AM   #30699
ramz
Professional Trail Rider
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Salida, CO
Oddometer: 1,955
Quote:
Looking through your site made it sound like you could hook up the PCV and AT, set the A/F, and just let it run.
That's exactly what you can do.

Quote:
Did you do all the extra work for the individual gear maps and so you had maps saved?
I wanted to work through all the options, save maps, monitor performance, etc. It's hard to take the easy way when you've been jetting carbs for 40 years. I finally gave in and just let the PCV/AT run and adjust as necessary...
ramz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 04:54 PM   #30700
oxygenrace
Motorcyclist
 
oxygenrace's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Oddometer: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee Bill View Post
I'm letting my WRR go, so in the next few days I will be taking my farkles off it and listing them in the flea market.

IMS 3 gallon tank, wolfman side racks with side plate for rotopax mounting, Sandman case saver in red, Sargent seat.
PM me.


.
where do i find the flea market?
oxygenrace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 05:05 PM   #30701
Nice_Rumble
Beastly Adventurer
 
Nice_Rumble's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: New London, NH
Oddometer: 2,221
Quote:
Originally Posted by oxygenrace View Post
where do i find the flea market?
Here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14
__________________
Friend us on Facebook to learn about up coming 2014 DARC Adventure rides Vermont, MA and RI.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/212396922304662/
Nice_Rumble is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 06:22 PM   #30702
Shawnee Bill
Beastly Adventurer
 
Shawnee Bill's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Oddometer: 1,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by oxygenrace View Post
where do i find the flea market?
Where Nice_Rumble said but everything has been spoken for so nothing ever made it to the flea market.
Except the WRR itself, as soon as I get it cleaned up I may list it there.



.
Shawnee Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 02:24 PM   #30703
clintnz
Trans-Global Chook Chaser
 
clintnz's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2004
Location: Rotoiti, New Zealand
Oddometer: 3,307
So we finally got around to removing all the emissions crap off Rosie's WRR...



It's heaps lighter now but seems a bit down on power

Actually, the engine was out for a full teardown to replace this:



2008 with 30 something thousand km on the bike. The gearbox countershaft output bearing had suddenly spat all it's balls out resulting in lots of nasty noises & loss of drive. Luckily there was no other damage. Still a big job to pull the engine down almost completely to get at the damn thing, would be horrifically expensive if you had to have a shop do it. All the rest of the motor insides looked pretty good, valve clearances ok, ring gaps well in spec, clutch good etc etc.

A look around the internets doesn't bring up any signs this is a common problem, my guess is that it had been literally 'ridden hard & put away wet' by the PO & corrosion from a drop of water in the bearing was the root cause. Rolling element forensics experts feel free to comment


Cheers
Clint
__________________
'03 KTM 640 LC4 Enduro

The wilderness, the desert - why are they not crowded
.................................................. .....with pilgrims?
clintnz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 02:25 PM   #30704
Jolly705
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jolly705's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Tri State Area
Oddometer: 2,376
I bought it set up but the previous owner said she spent $1000 on the suspension.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clayjars View Post
How much is the full go race package running now? I am hoping to send my stuff off in 2 months and it looks like Go Race has the WRR dialed in to perfection.
Jolly705 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 06:58 PM   #30705
strongbad
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
Oddometer: 479
Quote:
Originally Posted by clintnz View Post
...Rolling element forensics experts feel free to comment
Cheers
Clint
Brinnelling damage from a chain too tight?
strongbad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 06:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014