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Old 09-30-2012, 02:41 AM   #14446
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I use first gear and i run heated socks and pants and full jacket liner and glove and the tiger xc just runs it with no problems this is my first winter with full heated gear last year i had a vest and regretted it so i got the jacket liner just make sure what ever bike your using it on has the power to run it but if you have a 800xc you dont have to even check cause it has plenty to go around
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:47 AM   #14447
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Yes, once you use the the heated gear, you are hooked. I bought the First Gear jacket and gloves with a dual controller. If its not too cold I plug the gloves right into the jacket. If its really cold there is a separate wire for the gloves, but found it rather obtrusive sometimes.
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:53 AM   #14448
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Off teh heated gear topic....but hey Thomas, good to see you have surfaced from your gig in Coshocton.

Was good to meet you last weekend and ride together a bit....

Was good to have 2 Tigers on T-county roads
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:55 AM   #14449
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Yes, it was good! Still in Coshocton until Thursday, then freedom.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:50 AM   #14450
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I'm thinking that a heated vest and gloves combo would work well with my other non heated winter gear. I know that the tiger has powerlet/bmw style connector beside the key. Could i run both items off of the one plug, and are temp controllers absolutely necessary or could i just turn on/off as needed.

Sorry if these are rookie questions, but like i said i have never dealt with heated gear before. In this i have to bow to the greater knowledge of the experienced.
As others stated, go with the full liner. With a vest, the feeling of your arms being cold will make you feel cold. Furthermore, your arms and shoulders take the brunt of the windblast.

If you didn't have a controller, your gear would be at full-heat, all the time. I've never run my stuff at full-heat, as I've never needed that much warmth. Also, that would be a full drain on your electrical system. With a controller, you're not loading the bike's system so hard and you can vary your temp needs. With a dual-controller, you have the option of splitting your upper and lower body temps or simply run your passenger's gear, too. Oftentimes, she'll have her heat on and I'll be plugged in, just in case I need it.

Heated gear really changes the riding experience. I'll never again own a bike without the ability to run it.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:09 AM   #14451
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As others stated, go with the full liner. With a vest, the feeling of your arms being cold will make you feel cold. Furthermore, your arms and shoulders take the brunt of the windblast.

If you didn't have a controller, your gear would be at full-heat, all the time. I've never run my stuff at full-heat, as I've never needed that much warmth. Also, that would be a full drain on your electrical system. With a controller, you're not loading the bike's system so hard and you can vary your temp needs. With a dual-controller, you have the option of splitting your upper and lower body temps or simply run your passenger's gear, too. Oftentimes, she'll have her heat on and I'll be plugged in, just in case I need it.

Heated gear really changes the riding experience. I'll never again own a bike without the ability to run it.
Yup. Full heated gear is a game-changer - it's one of those things you wonder why you didn't do it sooner.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:44 AM   #14452
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I have been eying the factory heated grips really hard.
The factory heated grips are a pretty decent setup, but MY GOD!!!, the grips they use are terrible.
If I had chunks of raw steel instead, they'd probably be more comfortable. I ended up having to
put a set of those foam-sleeve things on, and they ended up making them a lot more tolerable.
With the foam-sleeves on, when I set it to high, the heat comes through just fine and in fact keeps
it from getting too hot. Once they're up to temp, I can switch to the low setting and maintain the
heat just fine.

Though I will end up getting a set of heated gloves to keep the backs of my hands warm.
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:46 PM   #14453
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Another vote for the full liner and gloves. And the dual controller. I find I run the gloves a lot warmer than the liner so it's good to have individual adjustment. Sometimes I don't need the liner on at all but a little heat on the hands is oh so nice. My brand of preference is Gerbings.

Heated grips are OK if you get caught out in falling temperatures but can't compare in comfort with the gloves.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:52 PM   #14454
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wow that was a lot more responses than i expected. Thanks everyone for the info. Given what I have learned i think will go with the jacket liner, gloves, and first gear thermo suit. Still have to make up my mind on the brand for the jacket and gloves. Gerbling seems expensive compared to first gear, but i am wondering if its a you get what you pay for type relationship. The part that annoys me is that growing up in IL I know i could be riding up in a tshirt or be riding through 6in of snow.
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:38 PM   #14455
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wow that was a lot more responses than i expected. Thanks everyone for the info. Given what I have learned i think will go with the jacket liner, gloves, and first gear thermo suit. Still have to make up my mind on the brand for the jacket and gloves. Gerbling seems expensive compared to first gear, but i am wondering if its a you get what you pay for type relationship. The part that annoys me is that growing up in IL I know i could be riding up in a tshirt or be riding through 6in of snow.
check flea market and eBay. A lot that stuff comes used with little use.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:00 PM   #14456
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wow that was a lot more responses than i expected. Thanks everyone for the info. Given what I have learned i think will go with the jacket liner, gloves, and first gear thermo suit. Still have to make up my mind on the brand for the jacket and gloves. Gerbling seems expensive compared to first gear, but i am wondering if its a you get what you pay for type relationship. The part that annoys me is that growing up in IL I know i could be riding up in a tshirt or be riding through 6in of snow.
Gerbing has a sterling reputation and top end technology. Not that the others aren't breaking ground on their own. But to me, when it comes to comfort and safety, I'm going with the best I can find. Doesn't seem wise to to anything else.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:41 PM   #14457
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I'm thinking that a heated vest and gloves combo would work well with my other non heated winter gear. I know that the tiger has powerlet/bmw style connector beside the key. Could i run both items off of the one plug, and are temp controllers absolutely necessary or could i just turn on/off as needed.

Sorry if these are rookie questions, but like i said i have never dealt with heated gear before. In this i have to bow to the greater knowledge of the experienced.
Spring for the dual controller. I started with the simple on/off switch and very quickly converted to the dual adjustable thermostat controller. Make a world of difference. You can set the heat level most comfortable to each component and then fine tune as necessary..

Gerbings supplies a plug that connects directly to the battery, the controller plugs into that. I keep the primary plug under the seat and bring it out when needed.I also got the little leather pouch thing for the controller that clips to my tank bag for easy access to the adjustment dials.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:25 PM   #14458
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wow that was a lot more responses than i expected. Thanks everyone for the info. Given what I have learned i think will go with the jacket liner, gloves, and first gear thermo suit. Still have to make up my mind on the brand for the jacket and gloves. Gerbling seems expensive compared to first gear, but i am wondering if its a you get what you pay for type relationship.
Gerbing's is, now, made in China. You can search the site, but, it seems they had better quality when their stuff was made in the USA. I can't say that I'd positively buy Gerbing's again.

I have First Gear TPG Rainier jacket and Escape pants. They are first-rate, quality made and in talking to their customer service (gear questions), I've had great service there, too. And, I believe Warm & Safe make their heated gear. You can call them and ask, but, seems that's what I've read here, on the forum. Their products certainly look the same, other than color or other minor details. If I had to do it again, I'd probably buy First Gear/Warm & Safe heated products.

There's a ton of info on the site, regarding heated gear. Take the time to find out what others are saying.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:31 AM   #14459
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Gerbing's is, now, made in China. You can search the site, but, it seems they had better quality when their stuff was made in the USA. I can't say that I'd positively buy Gerbing's again.

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I would venture to say that all heated gear regardless of vendor in made in China

According the Gerbing's web site they have opened a manufacturing facility in North Carolina (9/2012) where they now make their liners and plan eventually to be able to manufacture their entire line there. They are also going to get all of their raw materials domestically.

Good to see a company bringing jobs back to the USA.

All this talk about heated gear is wishful thinking on my part. It still summer here in Florida but I'm going up to South Carolina next week and hopefully will be able use mine.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:38 AM   #14460
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According the Gerbing's web site they have opened a manufacturing facility in North Carolina (9/2012) where they now make their liners and plan eventually to be able to manufacture their entire line there. They are also going to get all of their raw materials domestically.

Good to see a company bringing jobs back to the USA.
The news article is here.

I find it ironic that Jeff Gerbing is touting what a great thing they're doing, with bringing production back to the US. However, they're forgetting to state the obvious negatives of them moving production to China, in the first place.
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