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Old 09-30-2012, 11:52 AM   #69706
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The thing starts up at 40 degree weather on one or two rev with no choke........


"This normally means the idle circuit is too rich and could be wasting fuel once the engine warms up. But you're happy with it, so theoretical guessing on my part is irrelevant. I'm just jealous that you have a TM-40 and I don't. "

Well it's a FCR-MX,almost the same thing
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:03 PM   #69707
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So, does anyone here have a 790 or 780 kit installed?
790. Yes! I love it! While I was in there (bearing failure made me rebuild the motor) I put in skf bearings and kibblewhite valves as well. Lots of smooth power. Bike goes like hell and still gets great mileage.
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:14 PM   #69708
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Well it's a FCR-MX,almost the same thing
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:11 PM   #69709
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Getting the Safari tank back on was the marathon of the day. The alignment with the brackets seems to change every time I take it off and back on again. I seem to be coming up with new techniques to get the bloody thing back on.

I may start a "how to put the safari tank back on hints and tips thread page"..............is there one out there already.

anyway, thanks for all the feedback (again)
I didn't realize the Safari was difficult to remove/replace. If that's the case with ALL of them ... then definitely not for me. I've taken my IMS off and on at least 30 times in just the last few years. I routinely take the tank off for any maintenance or Carb tuning. Very handy with the IMS, which comes in just minutes. I've done it on the road in Mexico, never a problem.

Access is important to me ... and is a BIG PLUS on the DR650 in general.
I see guys on BMW's sweating in the hot sun, going through 30 minutes of struggle just to get down to something.

The IMS and new Acerbis give over 230 to 250 miles of range (depending how bike is tuned) . Plenty of range for this continent ... Oz is a different world of course.
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:23 PM   #69710
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The IMS and new Acerbis give over 230 to 250 miles of range (depending how bike is tuned) . Plenty of range for this continent ... Oz is a different world of course.
I got 60 miles to the gallon on one tankful recently. Almost 300 mile range on that tank. (IMS tank) I've gone to a 16-tooth front sprocket.
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:30 PM   #69711
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I didn't realize the Safari was difficult to remove/replace. If that's the case with ALL of them ... then definitely not for me. I've taken my IMS off and on at least 30 times in just the last few years. I routinely take the tank off for any maintenance or Carb tuning. Very handy with the IMS, which comes in just minutes. I've done it on the road in Mexico, never a problem.

Access is important to me ... and is a BIG PLUS on the DR650 in general.
I see guys on BMW's sweating in the hot sun, going through 30 minutes of struggle just to get down to something.

The IMS and new Acerbis give over 230 to 250 miles of range (depending how bike is tuned) . Plenty of range for this continent ... Oz is a different world of course.
It only seemed on this occasion that it was difficult to get back on. Previous times, it aligned more or less straight away. As I mentioned earlier, the tank had a lot of fuel in it so may have been "flexing" a bit.

Even though it can create some issues, I still love my safari tank and the range I get with it. Even the fact I don't have to go into and fuel up is such a convenience. Last time I fueled up I had 732km and still hadn't hit reserve.

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Old 09-30-2012, 06:03 PM   #69712
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somebody rescue me from the "First Gear Clunk"... My 97 has a bad case of it. I've replaced the clutch cable, adjusted, adjusted, adjusted, adjusted, changed the oil [currently running Rotella HD 15/40], sacrificed two chickens and a snake, all to no avail. Strained my old oil for any telltale signs and found NO debris at all, though I tried hard. nothing on the magnetic plug either

mine, like others have reported, is sensitive to temperature and engine speed, and of course, movement. just move it forward at slow walking speed and its really happy. move it backward and its nasty. cold it behaves ok. warm it is more cooperative. hot its ugly.

upshifting to 2nd is almost as dicey, and downshifting from 3rd to 2nd is like dropping off a ledge

suggestions?
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:50 PM   #69713
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Grifter the Safari isn't a big problem to remove/reinstall once you've done it twice. I had a IMS on my previous DR and now that I've have a Safari I wouldn't trade it for 3 IMS's. I'm big on accessibility also and can remove my Safari in less than and extra minute more than my IMS and reinstall with a extra two minutes over the IMS. Since both of us have done some serious Central America travel we both understand ease of maintenance "on the road".


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I didn't realize the Safari was difficult to remove/replace. If that's the case with ALL of them ... then definitely not for me. I've taken my IMS off and on at least 30 times in just the last few years. I routinely take the tank off for any maintenance or Carb tuning. Very handy with the IMS, which comes in just minutes. I've done it on the road in Mexico, never a problem.

Access is important to me ... and is a BIG PLUS on the DR650 in general.
I see guys on BMW's sweating in the hot sun, going through 30 minutes of struggle just to get down to something.

The IMS and new Acerbis give over 230 to 250 miles of range (depending how bike is tuned) . Plenty of range for this continent ... Oz is a different world of course.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:45 PM   #69714
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Friends
somebody rescue me from the "First Gear Clunk"... My 97 has a bad case of it. I've replaced the clutch cable, adjusted, adjusted, adjusted, adjusted, changed the oil [currently running Rotella HD 15/40], sacrificed two chickens and a snake, all to no avail. Strained my old oil for any telltale signs and found NO debris at all, though I tried hard. nothing on the magnetic plug either

mine, like others have reported, is sensitive to temperature and engine speed, and of course, movement. just move it forward at slow walking speed and its really happy. move it backward and its nasty. cold it behaves ok. warm it is more cooperative. hot its ugly.

upshifting to 2nd is almost as dicey, and downshifting from 3rd to 2nd is like dropping off a ledge

suggestions?
Pull the clutch and check that the metal plates are clean and flat. If they are warped and/or contaminated that can cause drag. Also take a look at the fingers on the clutch basket and see if the sides that engage the fiber plates are smooth. If these are not smooth, they can cause the clutch to stick too. Make similar checks with the metal plates and the clutch hub.

Mine shifted better after I changed to Valvoline 20W-50 synthetic blend.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:03 PM   #69715
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The only issue I have with mxrob's chart is that it doesn't show the white spacer (or the metal KTM shim) under the clip. That is the stock configuration, and would put the bottoms of the needles (KTM vs DR) at pretty much the same height.
Just the addition of the white spacer alone would put them a lot closer.

Also I believe the general consensus is that the DJ needle in that chart is meant to sit at the bottom of the slide (along side the shelf, not on the shelf). This would also make its installed height a little closer to (DR) OEM then pictured in the chart.
Not sure how the Procycle needle falls in there height wise compared to OEM. A lot of variables to be sure.
That is where i put mine, i had to turn the C clip to where the opening would sit sit along the wall ( flat side ) of the shelf, that way it would go all the way down and not be in a bind or cocked to the side.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:56 PM   #69716
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790. Yes! I love it! While I was in there (bearing failure made me rebuild the motor) I put in skf bearings and kibblewhite valves as well. Lots of smooth power. Bike goes like hell and still gets great mileage.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:05 AM   #69717
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I found mounting and remounting my Safari tank a challenge also. Increasing the hole size and elongating in the bottom mount brace made the job easy.

TravelGuy
Prolly common knowledge but when putting the thing back together I do the 2 bolts on the bike (under the seat) first. It's a shedload easier to wiggle the wings into position than to get the under seat holes to line up. Was a 'duh' moment for me after much swearing.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:43 AM   #69718
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It only seemed on this occasion that it was difficult to get back on. Previous times, it aligned more or less straight away. As I mentioned earlier, the tank had a lot of fuel in it so may have been "flexing" a bit.
If you're just pulling it off and going to put it back on right away it's not a problem. I believe the problems come it when the tank is off for a couple of days or more and has fuel in it. Mine is off right now and since I knew it would be off the bike for more than a week I drained it and attached the front brace.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:25 AM   #69719
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If you're just pulling it off and going to put it back on right away it's not a problem. I believe the problems come it when the tank is off for a couple of days or more and has fuel in it. Mine is off right now and since I knew it would be off the bike for more than a week I drained it and attached the front brace.

Ethanol may be responsible for the expansion of these plastic tanks. Ducati's amoung many others have serious expansion problems. http://deformedfueltanks.com/
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:09 AM   #69720
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wanting to rent a bike for a trip in costa rica, i'm asking myself whether a dr650 would be a good choice travelling 2-up (girlfriend and me, together about 280 pounds) for two weeks with the necessary luggage (maybe a giantloop + a bag)? the dr would most likely be stock, i don't think that there's any upgrades on the bikes in regards to suspension etc. other options include f8gs & lc4, lc8. no personal experience with the dr. thoughts?
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