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Old 10-01-2012, 07:44 AM   #53011
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Perhaps this is what happened . . .

http://youtu.be/CbTZkZTYkaM?hd=1
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:47 AM   #53012
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Interesting, your last posts were July 2010 in the tag thread. You dried up and went away and this brought you forth from your ADV sabbatical?
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:04 AM   #53013
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Interesting, your last posts were July 2010 in the tag thread. You dried up and went away and this brought you forth from your ADV sabbatical?
Yep, wanted to see what you guys were saying about the RR incident. I've lurked since July 2010, but didn't have much to add to the convo before today. This is unfortunate on all levels, and one we can all relate too. I agree with you MeefZah, good attorney and mouth shut is going to be the only defense. I also understand the law to be as buildit said . . .

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Well, under Ohio law as it was explained to me unless you are in imminent danger you're not justified to shoot or shoot at someone no matter what they might have done just moments before. The second you are NOT in danger the justification ends because you should be escaping. So even if the pickup had tried for the last hour to run him over or had even hit him, the moment he turned and chased the pickup he was in the wrong. I defer the true legal analysis to the professionals.
Perfect - this didn't take long "Ohio Democrats introduce bill to effectively kill concealed carry in Ohio" - http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8558. Obviously the proposed bill was in the works before today, but now they have fresh justification.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:08 AM   #53014
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You're welcome. I had a blast. I'll be driving down next Friday night and riding both days at the Baby Burr. Should be another great weekend.

You going to be on your husky?
yep - going through her from tip to tail and haven't found too many issues yet - she should last the weekend.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:16 AM   #53015
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Yes. Up to about Wakeman is good (as someone already noted). I'm a few miles east of 60 up along the lake.

From Wakeman to the lake is only another 12 miles or so. If you take it all the way to Lake Erie, watch out for speed traps as you come into New London from the south, and a mile or two before Birmingham (where 113 crosses) in something called "terrytown"
Jumping a bit to the West and running Fitchville River Road from 162 to Wakeman is more enjoyable than 60. Watch your speed in Wakeman as well, especially if you go on 20.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:16 AM   #53016
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Not always, and things are not always as they seem.

Great minds think alike; I came up with virtually the same scenario when I was trying to justify it.

My guess is after today the shock will wear off and this story will leave the MSMedia and we'll never really know what comes of it. They (media) took a pretty obvious stand as to whom was the victim versus the criminal here, so even if they find a gun, maybe some alcohol, and even a past criminal record from the truck driver... the chances of them coming back to say "maybe it didn't go down like we assumed" are slim to none.

I'm not saying it's all the truck drivers fault and none the motorcyclists. It could be that way, it could be exactly the opposite, it's probably somewhere in between. We just don't/won't know.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:22 AM   #53017
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Jumping a bit to the West and running Fitchville River Road from 162 to Wakeman is more enjoyable than 60. Watch your speed in Wakeman as well, especially if you go on 20.
There is another little chip seal road along the river that is curvy and fun.

20 east of wakeman, bp station, speed trap there all the time.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:30 AM   #53018
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I only took photos on the Marienville Trail (Marienville, Pa). The ATV trails are Wayne easy, pretty much ride any standard motorcycle with tread and a skid plate and ride it. The bike trail however, though now quad wide, has some nasty rock gardens. There are 4 or 5 average rock gardens on the Marienville, 3 that are intimidating. Rocky Gap only has 2 or 3.

In the one posted above, not only was this this the by-pass hill to the real hill (you don't want to see the real hill, think Erzberg), I was supposed to be going in the direction the camera is pointed, not the direction the rock kicked me. I got stuck twice but made it without falling. I tried the real hill 4 or 5 times one day and never made it without dabbing or stopping.
I've only ridden the Marienville trail once, and it was in the rain. It had let up a bit, and we tried the rock hill dspite the fact that the rocks were still wet. None of us made it without crashing and on more than one occasion we were going down rocks backwards with the rear tire still spinning. The bypass looks like it would have been a less painful choice that day.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:39 AM   #53019
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I've lurked since July 2010, but didn't have much to add to the convo before today.
The tag game is alive and well, I seem to recall you were having a lot of fun there for a while...
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:39 AM   #53020
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I believe Luke misread Scott's post, and I believe Scott's post was tongue in cheek and that he does not have any desire to shoot a cop; but that cops would respond quicker if they thought another cop was shot.

And it looks like Luke edited his post anyway so the only evidence is your quoted post...

Yeah, I would not shoot a cop, but I am saying if I really needed them to show up quickly I think that is how you would get the shortest response time.

However....I'm guessing they would be really aggresive and not very friendly when they show up................. Just saying.

I have thought of riding with my GoPro on all the time, but what would you do with photo eveidence? Do you think it would get acted upon? When people kill MC riders and it is 100% their fault they usually get a ticket for failure to yeild & nothing more. If you get photographic evidence of someone being an asshat what will that do? If someone causes you to wreck, but does not hit you, you will be the person at fault 100% of the time.

Deck not stacked in our favor at all. It does not help that many of the general public (and a bunch of LEOs too) think that we are getting what we asked for by riding our death machines.....Yes, a car pulled out in front of you....what did you expect? They do that. Almost 96% of the population does not ride.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:18 AM   #53021
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The tag game is alive and well, I seem to recall you were having a lot of fun there for a while...
Yes, I do enjoy tagging, almost too much! I hear I've missed a few good ones pretty close to me, and I love the Ferry from Augusta KY into Ohio, great ride!

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Old 10-01-2012, 09:19 AM   #53022
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The problem is that will not do shit. The LEOs have bigger fish to fry. You are on your own. Call the police for anything & see what happens.....They'll tell you to log onto their website & file a report.

I have never seen a state patrol car within 5 miles of my house ever until last Sunday afternoon. Then there are 4 of them zooming around like flies.....later found out one had high centered after tossing his car in a ditch about a half mile from my house. Those low berms are a bitch. They were all looking for their buddy that was in a "crash".

If I really needed a cop to show up quickly I would call 911 & say I shot one.
I call shenagins, a state trooper lives two doors down from me.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:21 AM   #53023
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One of the reports said that the guy on the bike started shooting at the truck on the ramp from 23N to 42E.

Truck pulled into parking lot and scuffle ensued, gun reportedly when off when shooter was attempting to pistol-whip the dude, hence the grazing shot.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:26 AM   #53024
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One of the reports said that the guy on the bike started shooting at the truck on the ramp from 23N to 42E.

Truck pulled into parking lot and scuffle ensued, gun reportedly when off when shooter was attempting to pistol-whip the dude, hence the grazing shot.
Sounds like he's been watching too much sons of anarchy....
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:29 AM   #53025
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Sounds like he's been watching too much sons of anarchy....
Doesn't look terribly remorseful in the mugshot.

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