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Old 10-02-2012, 11:26 AM   #2476
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Yes, it's funky looking enough!

When I bought my 95 R1100GS, one of my criteria was that it had to look at least as funky as my R100GSPD. It did, and I bought it. 70,000 trouble free miles, and it still runs as new, or slightly better for that matter. Since the 1200GSs lost weight , compared to my 1100, I suppose this slight weight gain will make it about the same weight as my 1100. And 45 more hp, so I guess it should perform a bit better. And it does look equally funky to my 1100, give or take a bit. So all I need is the $$$, and I reckon I should get one. Probably wait a year though, just in case there are any issues...wonder if they will make it in Dakar Yellow??
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:27 AM   #2477
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I told my dealer as soon as the Adventure sets tyres on Swedish soil I want one, 18 months
As far as looks go...... OK by me and as previously stated, you don't take it home for the looks
Beauty is a thing that passes quickly whereas a bad final drive will be in you mind for a long time
Oh the joy tarting it up, lodas of new threads by people moaning about silly things.
Now hear this: Don't buy one, get a SJMC (standard jap motorcycle) instead.
Never any problemes so you can be out riding the whole time.
I wish I had bought a GSA a long time ago
and now I drink Orange Crush as well, thrice up now, two 990 Adv and a 950 SER
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:27 AM   #2478
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Better get the Watercooled Boxer subforum started....

...and Touratech better start grinding out all the watercooled accessories...that bike needs about $10K in farkles...

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:28 AM   #2479
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Originally Posted by eakins View Post
like Touratech, i'm sure they saw the real bike a long time ago.
That's exactly right, or how would Touratech be such a big game planner on modifications.
I think it's getting to look much like a road bıke day after day.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:29 AM   #2480
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Originally Posted by EJ_92606 View Post
But I hear ya...I don't like the idea of adding any weight! I was hoping that the integrated gearbox weight savings might offset the radiators, but I guess not. That porky muffler added it all back!
I'm sure it's heavy but the muffler is the easiest thing to deal with, well maybe not here in CA. Thanks Arnie. Some of the other goofy stuff will require some real thought. I think the tank panel and the beak should have been connected. It looks odd that they aren't. Triumph did the same treatment on their radiator guard. They both look out of place, like an afterthought. I definitely like the lines of the 2012's better. The new one doesn't look as purposeful to me.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:34 AM   #2481
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Originally Posted by Django View Post

All your questions and more photos than you can shake a stick at are being discussed in the "other" water boxer thread with over a half a million page views.

ya but we are over here.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:35 AM   #2482
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2013 GS Specifications

An overview of highlights of the new BMW R 1200 GS.
• Completely newly designed engine for top-level riding dynamics within the travel enduro segment.
• Capacity 1170 cc, rated output 92 kW (125 bhp) at 7700 rpm and a maximum torque of 125 Nm at 6500 rpm.
• Cylinder heads with vertical through-flow for increased efficiency and performance.
• Compact air/water cooling for optimum heat management.
• Basic engine with compact, light and yet rigidity-optimised crankshaft.
• Vertically separated case in open deck construction.
• 6-speed gearbox integrated in engine housing, including wet clutch with anti-hopping function and reduced lever operation force.
• New intake system for optimum output and torque with 52 mm throttle valve diameter.
• E-gas for improved ridability, running smoothness and special functions.
• Innovative exhaust gas system with electronically controlled exhaust flap for optimum performance characteristics and an earthy boxer sound.
• Freely selectable riding modes “Rain”, “Road”, “Dynamic”, “Enduro” and “Enduro Pro” with three different electromotive throttle actuator settings in conjunction with ASC (Automatic Stability Control), ABS and ASC settings for off-road riding as well as different mode-specific Dynamic ESA settings (option ex works).
• New suspension with torsionally stiff tubular steel bridge frame and bolt-on rear frame.
• Optimised lightweight cardan shaft drive now running on the left-hand side.
• Newly developed and optimised Telelever at front and EVO Paralever at rear for an even more precise ride feel.
• Refined master chassis geometry data and long swingarm for excellent traction.
• Optimised seating width and position, and adjustable handlebars for even greater comfort.
• Optimised ground reach for rider (inner leg length).
• Tyre/wheel dimensions of 120/70 R19 at front and 170/60 R17 at rear as a world first, tailored specially to the R 1200 GS.
• Revised BMW Motorrad brake system with radially mounted Brembo Monobloc brake calipers at front and 2-piston floating caliper with enlarged brake disc at rear (Ψ 276mm, previously 265mm).
• BMW Motorrad Integral ABS as standard.
• Semiactive suspension Dynamic ESA (ex works option).
• Main headlight with optimised light efficiency and LED daytime running light (ex works option).
• World’s first motorcycle with LED main headlight featuring integrated daytime running light (ex works option).
• New vehicle electrical system with partitioning of functions.
• Extended electric switch units.
• Electronic cruise control (ex works option).
• Preparation for navigation unit with Multi-Controller to operate the
BMW Motorrad Navigator IV (ex works option).
• Windshield with one-hand operation for excellent wind and weather protection.
• Seat with multiple adjustment functions for perfect ergonomics.
• Number plate carriers quick to dismount for off-road riding.
• Increased ground clearance (+ 8 mm)
• New instrument cluster with on-board computer as standard. PRO on-board computer as an option.
• Four main paint finishes to choose from:
Alpine White, Racing Red, Blue Fire and Thunder Grey Metallic.
· Extensive range of special accessories and rider equipment.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:42 AM   #2483
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Originally Posted by German Trick View Post
What the HELL am I supposed to do with my right hand now!!!
Scratch yer...
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I believe I'll have another beer."
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:43 AM   #2484
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Originally Posted by fixinbones View Post
This might change your mind. 150HP, 17" front and rear wheels, and plenty of electronic gadgetry like the GS.

Make that 19/17 (and 21/18 in the "R" model)
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:43 AM   #2485
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What does "windshield with one hand operation" mean? Is this operation performed while riding?
'14 R1200GS
Priors: '13 K1600GT, '08 R1200RT, '04 R1150RT, '05 R1200GS, '73 R75/5.

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:44 AM   #2486
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Never thought that I would like the new GS as much as I do. It's a nice looking bike. I wouldn't mind owning one.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:46 AM   #2487
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Originally Posted by Pcfly View Post
Wait till a good cow, rock, or rock wall encounter and we'll see how crash worthy this bike is. I've seen plenty of crash marks on upper crash bars and for some reason this bike looks like it's not very crash worth due to those wings and radiators. It would only take one good radiator hit on those wings to knock it out of commission......hope it's not the case.

Not sure why but I really wanted to like this bike, maybe I will later but for now I'm not lov'ing it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:55 AM   #2488
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Originally Posted by Eddy Alvarez View Post
Whoever has $25,000 burning a hole in their pocket, can't wait to buy a new GS and wants to unload their "old" 2010-2012 fully farkled R1200GS for $10-12,000, please PM me! At least some of the thousands I have in farkles on my '05 will transfer over!
If they had reduced the weight without decreasing the power rather than porking up and adding power - I might have been that guy.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:09 PM   #2489
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Yep...maybe the world is big enough for...let's say...2 forums discussing the same thing?

As long as it doesn't turn into an OIL FORUM...
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:09 PM   #2490
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Originally Posted by longslowdistance View Post
If they had reduced the weight without decreasing the power rather than porking up and adding power - I might have been that guy.
The additional weight is due to going to a watercooled system which is being driven by EU emissions standards for the net add of 24 pounds, it negates 3 HP. In the end, the bike will be faster but a tad heavier but still lighter than the old 1150GS.

If you want lighter... they have a bike for that... the F900GS
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