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Old 10-02-2012, 11:18 AM   #16
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- itunes... depends if you have older, drm'd itunes music that you never upgraded to 'itunes+' w/out drm. if you do, you're kind of out of luck on that unless you pay to upgrade those files, otherwise no problems.
- the apps won't work- you'll have to repurchase (likely the exact same apps will mostly be available)
- macbook- depends what you want to do.
- you can buy unlocked, or carrier subsidized. up to you.

i would probably look at a galaxy nexus if you're looking for an unlocked phone. you can't beat $350 for an unlocked phone...
https://play.google.com/store/device...axy_nexus_hspa
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:59 AM   #17
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One thing to note is that most, if not all, Android phones can connect to your computer as a simple USB device. No need to sync with anything. Then you can drag and drop music, movies, or image files as if it were any other USB drive. I can't do that on my wifes iPhone or my iPod touch (that I'm aware of). Not a deal breaker for most but it's the way I prefer.

Any music you have in whatever folder on your computer (even the iTunes Music folder) can be dragged to the Android. Assuming they aren't locked down by DRM, and even then there's plenty of ways around that.

There's also no real need to tinker with an Android device, but you can if you want. Root it and go nuts but make sure you have your contacts and files backed up. The Google Play store keeps track of the apps you've installed so you can reinstall them easily if you have to reset your phone and start from scratch.

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Old 10-02-2012, 02:18 PM   #18
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Jim, maybe the answer is staying with the iPhone but changing from AT&T to Verizon. Just another angle on it...
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #19
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Jim, maybe the answer is staying with the iPhone but changing from AT&T to Verizon. Just another angle on it...
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:22 PM   #20
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Looks like part of my reply got lost.
I was writing that if you we're switching for better service and a lower monthly, that maybe you consider switching providers. Not sure if that's your reason, or you just want to try something different.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:42 PM   #21
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One thing to note is that most, if not all, Android phones can connect to your computer as a simple USB device. No need to sync with anything. Then you can drag and drop music, movies, or image files as if it were any other USB drive. I can't do that on my wifes iPhone or my iPod touch (that I'm aware of). Not a deal breaker for most but it's the way I prefer.

Any music you have in whatever folder on your computer (even the iTunes Music folder) can be dragged to the Android. Assuming they aren't locked down by DRM, and even then there's plenty of ways around that.

There's also no real need to tinker with an Android device, but you can if you want. Root it and go nuts but make sure you have your contacts and files backed up. The Google Play store keeps track of the apps you've installed so you can reinstall them easily if you have to reset your phone and start from scratch.

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THAT right there is why I avoid Apple anything.

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Way off topic, but I'm waiting to get a Nokia Windows Phone. After playing with a friends Nokia 900 Windows phone, holy cow it was nice.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:11 PM   #22
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THAT right there is why I avoid Apple anything.

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Way off topic, but I'm waiting to get a Nokia Windows Phone. After playing with a friends Nokia 900 Windows phone, holy cow it was nice.
That's why its of a consideration for me. I'm feeling a little too locked in to Applemania. Then again, Google seems to be a much bigger brother than Apple will ever be..
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:41 PM   #23
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THAT right there is why I avoid Apple anything.

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Way off topic, but I'm waiting to get a Nokia Windows Phone. After playing with a friends Nokia 900 Windows phone, holy cow it was nice.
Uh, the Nokia lumia 900 doesn't do USB mass storage mode, so given your highlighting, you might want to shop carefully... :-)
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:07 AM   #24
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Uh, the Nokia lumia 900 doesn't do USB mass storage mode, so given your highlighting, you might want to shop carefully... :-)
Wow, Thank you, I stand corrected. I thought the new Nokia Windows 8 phone was going to come with USB file browsing ability. I just did a ton of googling and reading and find that it will allow bluetooth file sharing but only for "media files"! I am aware of file sharing thru the "cloud" but that has many drawbacks and is unusable if your not connected to the net.
Damn, I think my optimistic view of the upcoming Nokia's just got shot down in flames. (seriously)
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:20 AM   #25
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Uh, the Nokia lumia 900 doesn't do USB mass storage mode, so given your highlighting, you might want to shop carefully... :-)
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:55 PM   #26
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I had the original Motorola Droid. I now have an iPhone 4s. There are pros and cons to each platform.

I've been a very loyal Verizon customer for many years, but I'm also a Mac loyalist (in part due to my job as a graphic designer). I got the Droid because at the time, the iPhone was AT&T only. My wife was on AT&T at the time, because she had to travel internationally and needed a GSM phone.

She switched to Verizon when she changed jobs, and we both upgraded to the 4s. The reason being it made no sense for us to have separate apps, chargers, etc.

The iPhone from a hardware standpoint is far superior to any other smartphone IMO. Yes, it doesn't have as large a screen as some Android devices, but from my perspective, it's a far more solid, well-built piece of equipment. IOS is also far more stable than Android. My iPhone never crashes. My Droid got progressively worse the longer I had it. I know others whose Android phones from various companies were almost unusable after about two years. The apps for IOS are, in my experience, of much higher quality in terms of usability, graphics and stability than anything on Android, though I've heard that's improving.

That said, I loved that the Android platform is so much more flexible than iOS (I don't jailbreak my phone). The best thing was using PDAnet to tether my laptop and not have to pay to use it as a hotspot. Not an option on the iPhone w/o jailbreaking, or paying extra. Having it appear as a standard USB device was nice as well for moving files back and forth.

I'm really annoyed with Apple for changing the connectors/chargers on the iPhone 5, but my hope is that they keep that connector for as long as they did the iPod/iPhone 3,4. If they do, no big deal. If you stick with Android, you're at the mercy of different manufacturers and their types of connectors. In addition, there are a ton more accessories for the iPhone than there are for different Android phones. (I couldn't even get a case easily for my Droid a year after I got it).

I suspect we'll stick with Apple next time out, but we may be switching back to AT&T, simply because Verizon's coverage at our cabin is terrible, and it seems to be even worse with the iPhone than it was with the Droid.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:54 PM   #27
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The platform supports it doesn't mean all the phones do. This is the same on android, BTW. Basically you can expect phones with removable SD cards to support it, those with only internal storage to not (there are exceptions to the latter on android).

As for your link, USB host is in the context of SD cards:
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“We introducing removal micro SD support as a core part of the platform and this core micro SD card support spans both the PC and the phone.
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And let’s be clear: this mass storage support gives you a PC mountable experience for the micro SD but not access to the phone’s internal memory for security reasons.

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Old 10-03-2012, 11:59 PM   #28
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If you stick with Android, you're at the mercy of different manufacturers and their types of connectors.
Are you aware of a single android phone that doesn't use a USB connector?
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:57 PM   #29
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I had the original Motorola Droid. I now have an iPhone 4s. There are pros and cons to each platform.

I've been a very loyal Verizon customer for many years, but I'm also a Mac loyalist (in part due to my job as a graphic designer). I got the Droid because at the time, the iPhone was AT&T only. My wife was on AT&T at the time, because she had to travel internationally and needed a GSM phone.

She switched to Verizon when she changed jobs, and we both upgraded to the 4s. The reason being it made no sense for us to have separate apps, chargers, etc.

The iPhone from a hardware standpoint is far superior to any other smartphone IMO. Yes, it doesn't have as large a screen as some Android devices, but from my perspective, it's a far more solid, well-built piece of equipment. IOS is also far more stable than Android. My iPhone never crashes. My Droid got progressively worse the longer I had it. I know others whose Android phones from various companies were almost unusable after about two years. The apps for IOS are, in my experience, of much higher quality in terms of usability, graphics and stability than anything on Android, though I've heard that's improving.

That said, I loved that the Android platform is so much more flexible than iOS (I don't jailbreak my phone). The best thing was using PDAnet to tether my laptop and not have to pay to use it as a hotspot. Not an option on the iPhone w/o jailbreaking, or paying extra. Having it appear as a standard USB device was nice as well for moving files back and forth.

I'm really annoyed with Apple for changing the connectors/chargers on the iPhone 5, but my hope is that they keep that connector for as long as they did the iPod/iPhone 3,4. If they do, no big deal. If you stick with Android, you're at the mercy of different manufacturers and their types of connectors. In addition, there are a ton more accessories for the iPhone than there are for different Android phones. (I couldn't even get a case easily for my Droid a year after I got it).

I suspect we'll stick with Apple next time out, but we may be switching back to AT&T, simply because Verizon's coverage at our cabin is terrible, and it seems to be even worse with the iPhone than it was with the Droid.

Wait wait wait. I've recently had and used a original droid. It's a pretty good phone (and not hard to find accessories for), but you're comparing it to a phone that's something like 5-6 generation newer. I now have a droid x- still several generations out of date, but quite a big upgrade from the original droid. Like pound sand mentions, all android phones that I'm aware of use micro usb, whereas the apple phones just switched to a completely new connector.

My droid x has crashed once or twice in the last 6 months. Mostly because the FM radio program is somewhat buggy- but still, I'm thrilled to have a phone that has an FM radio tuner built in, that's most of what I listen to at work, and to have it integrate with getting calls/making calls on the same headset is really nice.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:48 AM   #30
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I just last week refrained from drinking the apple juice and got a Samsung S3. This is coming from several Samsung models the last one being a S2 Skyrocket. I love the Android OS and don't tinker with it. I do love the USB connection for my computers and even in my truck. That is just not an option with the Iphone. I have never had OS problems with any of my android devices either, I have never not found an ap and most aps I use are free. One of the aps I use is the OnStar ap for android. Other users of that ap for Iphone have had lots of problems to the point of it not working at all.
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