Is Mexico Safe? - Page 701

SchizzMan · 10-03-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmex

Excelente video Bato. Me encanta Mexico.

+1.

Can't wait for Lila Downs to return to Tejas.

SchizzMan · 10-03-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Turkeycreek

As was riding el tigre la plata from my home in our little hotel in Banamichi, Sonora to Ures to make sure our guests found the road they were looking for, I started thinking about the question posed by this thread - "Is Mexico Safe?" As part of this thought process involved in considering the question "Is Mexico Safe?" I though about what causes this question to be raised in the first place, what is the raison d'etre for this thread. The answer is cartel violence. The obvious follow on question in the context of "Is Mexico Safe" as posed by this thread is how can cartel violence be reduced. For me the answer, again in the context of this thread, "Is Mexico Safe?" is to legalize and or de-criminalize drugs and thus deprive the cartels of the revenue needed to support the violence that cause the question to be raised in the first place. So as I rode my Triumph from Banamichi to Ures and back, and further pondered the question "is Mexico Safe?" I decided that yes, in the main Mexico is much more safe than not and the violence while horrific, is limited to relatively discrete and definable areas and mainly between willing participants (cartel soldiers, rival cartels and government forces) but can easily be made safer. Just saying.

I understand your thinking and appreciate your civil and thoughtful reply. I do agree with Mike on this one as the purpose of the thread is not to enter into extended debates of controversial social issues like legalization but rather to discuss and share info on more practical aspects of safe travel in Mexico.

Hope to make it out your way some time.

-JD

Turkeycreek · 10-03-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SchizzMan

+1.

Can't wait for Lila Downs to return to Tejas.

She is in PHX (Mesa) in April. Just 7 hrs away.

Bato · 10-03-2012, 10:07 PM

FYI today the son of gobernador of Coahuila was killed probably because business disagreement the relevance of this event is that Humberto Moreira is one top rank of Salinas soldiers
It happen in Acuna

eakins · 10-03-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rockymountainoyster

Lighten up Pedro. Having read most to all of the posts on this thread you have no cause to get your nickers in a knot over anything. Jeesh!

i was thinking the same thing about his 2 posts.
maybe he quit coffee, smoking & drinking all in 1 day.

SchizzMan · 10-03-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by airdale74451

I guess my multi-tool is out of the question since it has a blade. Anyone have know?

Since I lack full knowledge of Mexican weapons laws I just get by with a little bottle opener.

rockymountainoyster · 10-03-2012, 10:21 PM

I find that it is a good idea to go back to post #1 every once in awhile to refocus the lens before squeezing the trigger (or shutter, or submit button) It all started with Arte's mission statement there. Sometimes this place looks like an unruly chat room but there is always someone willing to pull it back in. I agree with both Schizz and Turkeycreek... safety and security, physical and economic are irrevocably linked. We can't fix it here, we can discuss it elsewhere, but it is the 500 pound gorilla that looms over the entire discussion. Let's face it, while the discussions of Salma and the weather girls are enjoyable and amusing what do they really have to do with "Is Mexico Safe"? The other subject has a lot to do with it.
Thankfully we don't see the female aficionadas of this thread posting up a lot of beefcake! Back in the last Century when I was an 18 year old kid venturing into TJ for the first time Mexico was not safe for a whole host of different reasons... simpler times, different problems. Donkeys and baskets and tequila oh my!

Bato · 10-03-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SchizzMan

Since I lack full knowledge of Mexican weapons laws I just get by with a little bottle opener.

And if that fails you can always call the marines

SchizzMan · 10-03-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bato

And if that fails you can always call the marines

I'm dropping your name, Amigo.

Turkeycreek · 10-03-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SchizzMan

Since I lack full knowledge of Mexican weapons laws I just get by with a little bottle opener.

I carry a gerber 3" lockback in a funda on my belt most of the time, on the bike or not. I have an old style folding electricians knife - locking screw driver blade - in the tank bag. A veces, a machete strapped to the tail bag for cutting wood while camping. Many locals carry machetes in their trucks to do their daily work in the fields or ranches. One of the fe gringos in town also carries a machete and a night stick. The cops laugh at him.

rockymountainoyster · 10-03-2012, 10:39 PM

Is the machete for cutting the night stick in half before someone seriously damages him with it?

Turkeycreek · 10-03-2012, 10:46 PM

I'll let you broach that subject with him should you come down.

rockymountainoyster · 10-04-2012, 02:48 AM

OK! I will see if I can borrow a chain saw from one of the Tejas boys.

tricepilot · 10-04-2012, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rockymountainoyster

Let's face it, while the discussions of Salma and the weather girls are enjoyable and amusing what do they really have to do with "Is Mexico Safe"?

MikeMike · 10-04-2012, 04:52 AM

This thread has always been the equivalent of a good old time Sofia Vergara wardrobe malfuntion!

http://egotastic.com/2012/09/sofia-v...t-emmy-awards/

Esa chica Hayek has some competition.

I just noticed the word "crackalicious" in the link I posted. Too bad words like that are not used in mundane things like presidential debates.

10-03-2012, 10:21 PM	#10507
rockymountainoyster Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Back in the San Juan Mountains Oddometer: 512	Post #1 I find that it is a good idea to go back to post #1 every once in awhile to refocus the lens before squeezing the trigger (or shutter, or submit button) It all started with Arte's mission statement there. Sometimes this place looks like an unruly chat room but there is always someone willing to pull it back in. I agree with both Schizz and Turkeycreek... safety and security, physical and economic are irrevocably linked. We can't fix it here, we can discuss it elsewhere, but it is the 500 pound gorilla that looms over the entire discussion. Let's face it, while the discussions of Salma and the weather girls are enjoyable and amusing what do they really have to do with "Is Mexico Safe"? The other subject has a lot to do with it. Thankfully we don't see the female aficionadas of this thread posting up a lot of beefcake! Back in the last Century when I was an 18 year old kid venturing into TJ for the first time Mexico was not safe for a whole host of different reasons... simpler times, different problems. Donkeys and baskets and tequila oh my!

10-03-2012, 10:39 PM	#10511
rockymountainoyster Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Back in the San Juan Mountains Oddometer: 512	Night stick Is the machete for cutting the night stick in half before someone seriously damages him with it?

10-03-2012, 10:46 PM	#10512
Turkeycreek Gringo Viejo Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Banámichi, Sonora, Mexico Oddometer: 461	I'll let you broach that subject with him should you come down. __________________ Mexico - Dream, Discover, Ride Hotel Los Arcos, Northern Sonora's Motorcycle Haven http://www.losarcossonora.com

10-04-2012, 02:48 AM	#10513
rockymountainoyster Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Back in the San Juan Mountains Oddometer: 512	Chain Saw OK! I will see if I can borrow a chain saw from one of the Tejas boys.

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10-03-2012, 10:07 PM	#10504
Bato Studly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2009 Location: TEJAS Oddometer: 896	FYI today the son of gobernador of Coahuila was killed probably because business disagreement the relevance of this event is that Humberto Moreira is one top rank of Salinas soldiers It happen in Acuna

10-04-2012, 04:52 AM	#10515
MikeMike Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2009 Location: South east Mexico Oddometer: 2,401	This thread has always been the equivalent of a good old time Sofia Vergara wardrobe malfuntion! http://egotastic.com/2012/09/sofia-v...t-emmy-awards/ Esa chica Hayek has some competition. I just noticed the word "crackalicious" in the link I posted. Too bad words like that are not used in mundane things like presidential debates.