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View Results: Should Lane Splitting be legal in all 50 States?
YES it should be made legal 1,492 76.87%
YES but ONLY on the Hwy 93 4.79%
YES but only for filtering at controlled intersections 219 11.28%
NO It is dangerous and should not be made legal 185 9.53%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 1941. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-04-2012, 01:48 AM   #376
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The poll is not complete.
I voted NO, but not because it's dangerous. I voted NO because I don't want someone else squeezing into my lane uninvited, so it's not right for me to do it to them.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:29 AM   #377
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It's legal in DC too

http://www.lewisandtompkins.com/libr...elmet-laws.cfm

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• Lane splitting and lane sharing – in which motorcycles share lanes with other vehicles or drive in between lanes – are not mentioned in the District’s motorcycle laws.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:54 PM   #378
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The poll is not complete.
I voted NO, but not because it's dangerous. I voted NO because I don't want someone else squeezing into my lane uninvited, so it's not right for me to do it to them.
You need to go spend some time riding in CA before you comment like that.

Once you've spent some time riding up the 805 at o-dark-thirty in gridlocked traffic you may think differently. I know it changed my perceptions.

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Old 10-04-2012, 04:19 PM   #379
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You need to go spend some time riding in CA before you comment like that.

Once you've spent some time riding up the 805 at o-dark-thirty in gridlocked traffic you may think differently. I know it changed my perceptions.

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No I don't, the question was not about CA specifically, besides that, I don't want cars coming into my lane. I'm pretty sure most riders here would agree that a four wheeler has no business sharing with a bike, why is it ok the other way around? I don't think it is.

And I have riden in CA, I was stationed there for four years and I rode there and I don't think differently.
If cars started splitting, I bet a few riders would change their minds.

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Old 10-04-2012, 05:17 PM   #380
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No I don't, the question was not about CA specifically, besides that, I don't want cars coming into my lane. I'm pretty sure most riders here would agree that a four wheeler has no business sharing with a bike, why is it ok the other way around? I don't think it is.

And I have riden in CA, I was stationed there for four years and I rode there and I don't think differently.

If cars started splitting, I bet a few riders would change their minds.

That’s hardly a solid argument against filtering traffic. Each stationary bike will take approximately 8ft of space “fenders to bumpers”. If you have 100 motorcycles stuck in traffic behind cars you basically have 100 more cars on the road. If those 100 bikes can filter you have just removed quite a bit of traffic.

There is a big difference between “lane splitting” and “filtering”. There is no reason to ride between two cars on the white line at 65mph. There are 1,000 reasons why bikes should squeeze through bumper to bumper traffic.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:48 PM   #381
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That’s hardly a solid argument against filtering traffic. Each stationary bike will take approximately 8ft of space “fenders to bumpers”. If you have 100 motorcycles stuck in traffic behind cars you basically have 100 more cars on the road. If those 100 bikes can filter you have just removed quite a bit of traffic.

There is a big difference between “lane splitting” and “filtering”. There is no reason to ride between two cars on the white line at 65mph. There are 1,000 reasons why bikes should squeeze through bumper to bumper traffic.
I don't need to argue. It's my opinion. Is it so hard to fathom that someone would have a different opinion about this? 98% of the states have a differwnt opinion. In the U.S., YOU are a minority.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:02 PM   #382
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Not really, according to the poll you are the minority, only 9.84% think "NO It is dangerous and should not be made legal".

Funny enough, 98% of the Countries of Earth allow bikes to filter through traffic, which makes you a minority once again.

Filtering is not "a feeling" one has, filtering enables congested traffic to have more flow.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:13 PM   #383
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I don't need to argue. It's my opinion. Is it so hard to fathom that someone would have a different opinion about this? 98% of the states have a differwnt opinion. In the U.S., YOU are a minority.
...and the US in general is a minority.

Issue is that most people in the US never leave the country, so they have never seen drivers in Europe or eastern Asia and no basis to compare it to.

So you get the "I'll open my door" crowd and the unfathomable crowd.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:18 AM   #384
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...and the US in general is a minority.

Issue is that most people in the US never leave the country, so they have never seen drivers in Europe or eastern Asia and no basis to compare it to.

So you get the "I'll open my door" crowd and the unfathomable crowd.
For you to "win" this, you must change my mind.
You probably won't do that.
The poll was asking about the U.S. It didn't ask about Europe.
I think filtering, splitting etc is disrespectful and encroaches of the space cushion of other people.

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Old 10-05-2012, 09:53 AM   #385
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I watched the first ten minutes of this, and this is how filtering should be done in my opinion. The rider was not a clown about it, he did it safely, and from what I saw only when traffic was stopped or going VERY slowly. I saw nothing dangerous about it at all. Good job rider Whoever you are.

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Old 10-05-2012, 09:55 AM   #386
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:00 AM   #388
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Lane splitting banned in SoCal military bases

I just got a message at work today, Commander Naval Region South West (CNRSW) has put out that lane splitting will not be authorized on all bases under their command.

So now motorcyclists get to sit in line creeping forward with the traffic on the base until we get to the blue line, then lane split all the way home.
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For you to "win" this, you must change my mind.
You probably won't do that.
The poll was asking about the U.S. It didn't ask about Europe.
I think filtering, splitting etc is disrespectful and encroaches of the space cushion of other people.
See my last post. THIS is the attitude we need to change. ...and its coming from 'one of us.'



I highly recommend spending some time in CA before you start making blanket statements. It will literally change your mind about the whole filtering/sharing thing.

I'll start debunking the filtering thing. How many motos do you know that can't out accelerate a car? Even Hardleys can... If you can out accelerate a car, how are you disrespectful and/or encroaching on someone's space cushion by filtering?

IME filter to the front, out accelerate the car next to you, and you've done a few things: A. you're not in the queue at the light. B. you're out of the way even before you get thru the intersection. C. you've facilitated smooth movement thru the intersection by ALL those behind you 'cause they didn't have to wait for yet one more vehicle to go thru the intersection. etc etc etc.

Feelings have nothing to do with any of that.

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I just got a message at work today, Commander Naval Region South West (CNRSW) has put out that lane splitting will not be authorized on all bases under their command.

So now motorcyclists get to sit in line creeping forward with the traffic on the base until we get to the blue line, then lane split all the way home.
Bummer dood.

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