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Old 10-04-2012, 04:35 AM   #2746
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wasserboxer or waterboxer
That doesn't follow the pattern.

AIR head
OIL head
HEX head
CAM head
WET head

See, it needs three letters and two sylables!

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Old 10-04-2012, 04:45 AM   #2747
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Except the rider now... Looks like the water radiator is on the right side with a fan system, and the oil cooler is on the left. Lots of heat dumping on the riders legs. Yikes !


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No oil cooler at all by the photos!



Oil flow



Water flow. Rad on the left, tank on the right.

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Old 10-04-2012, 04:58 AM   #2748
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That doesn't follow the pattern.

AIR head
OIL head
HEX head
CAM head
WET head

See, it needs three letters and two sylables!

Jim
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:05 AM   #2749
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They have added electronic trickery which has not been tested long term as was the Ducati's on the launch of the MS.
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What gave you this idea? Perhaps you're not familiar with the electronic issues that some MTS12 owners have faced up to now.

Liking the prospects of the new GS very much.
My meaning was that Ducati had NOT tested the electronic trickery long term. I can attest to it after having DES preload error.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:15 AM   #2750
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Looking at those engine/tranny/cooling system pics, I'd say that we have the winner of the 2013 Rube Goldberg Award!!

That has to be the most complex two-cylinder power train ever designed - let alone put into production!
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:52 AM   #2751
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They have added electronic trickery which has not been tested long term as was the Ducati's on the launch of the MS.
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What gave you this idea? Perhaps you're not familiar with the electronic issues that some MTS12 owners have faced up to now.

Liking the prospects of the new GS very much.

My meaning was that Ducati had NOT tested the electronic trickery long term. I can attest to it after having DES preload error.
No Italian manufacturer tests anything to do with electricity, ever. The are famous for producing really bad wiring and electronics.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:14 AM   #2752
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:21 AM   #2753
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Do we know if this '2013' will be available for pre-order in the next few weeks? Any info from the inside on when this bike ships would be appreciated
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:28 AM   #2754
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I put down a deposit Tuesday, Oct. 2 for anticipated March delivery.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:37 AM   #2755
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I did read somewhere that pricing will be at or below current GS pricing...I will try to find that info today and post it here! Maybe $14,000 Teneres have kept the price down. Officially, "No news on price yet, but BMW has confirmed that the UK will be offered an exclusive R1200GS TE (touring edition) version with many factory-fit options as standard. However, at the moment there's no sign of an Adventure version, which in the UK normally accounts for close to half the sales of GSes." Also, there's word of a "Enduro Package" that will make it much more off-road worthy. Metal bags? Beefier skid plate? Engine and tank guards? Handguards? Who knows...?

One thing is for sure! I am liking this bike more and more! I would paint the "Samurai sword" radiator covers black and repaint the beak and tank cover in the same pearl yellow as my 2005 GS!

I also heard mention that BMW's LED headlight may not be offered as an option in the US due to DOT regulation ...Harley Davidson offers a very similar but DUAL "Daymaker" LED set on their CVO Road Glide that supposedly is crazy BRIGHT!

See Link: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/568/14127/Motorcycle-Article/Harley-Intros-New-LED-Daymaker-Headlamps.aspx
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:39 AM   #2756
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I put down a deposit Tuesday, Oct. 2 for anticipated March delivery.
What color? I'm ignoring all the pessimism on this board. BMW continually improves these bikes! Can't wait to preorder mine.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:44 AM   #2757
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I did read somewhere that pricing will be at or below current GS pricing...I will try to find that info today and post it here! Maybe $14,000 Teneres have kept the price down. Officially, "No news on price yet, but BMW has confirmed that the UK will be offered an exclusive R1200GS TE (touring edition) version with many factory-fit options as standard. However, at the moment there's no sign of an Adventure version, which in the UK normally accounts for close to half the sales of GSes." Also, there's word of a "Enduro Package" that will make it much more off-road worthy. Metal bags? Beefier skid plate? Engine and tank guards? Handguards? Who knows...?

One thing is for sure! I am liking this bike more and more! I would paint the "Samuri sword" radiator covers black and repaint the beak and tank cover in the same pearl yellow as my 2005 GS!

I also heard mention that BMW's LED headlight may not be offered as an option in the US due to DOT regulation ...Harley Davidson offers a very similar but DUAL "Daymaker" LED set on their CVO Road Glide that supposedly is crazy BRIGHT!

See Link: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/568/14...Headlamps.aspx
That would really suck if it isn't available in the US. But, as you pointed out, HD already has this option. I know you've been able to buy the single 7 inch round LED from Harley as an upgrade to the current Touring bike lineup. The CVO's have it as standard I believe.

With the number of cars sporting true LED headlights (available on most Audi's), you'd think the DOT regulation should be easy to pass in this case. Looks like the LED headlight for BMW comes with the LED turnsignals, too. I dig it...nothing beats awesome lighting at night...
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:52 AM   #2758
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Beemerlover (#2750) makes a very good point.

The gearbox/transmission is remarkably over-complex. Power from the crankshaft must go through four pairs of gears before reaching the shaft in the swingarm. (Versus only two pairs, in the current & past boxers ~ certainly one of the reasons contributing to the current fuel efficiency superiority over the transverse-crankshaft "big shafties" like the S10 and the Explorer.)

The extra friction must worsen fuel consumption a bit ~ probably more noticeable at lower throttle openings.
Maybe the slightly higher compression ratio will counteract that, to some extent.

Still, you can see that the engineers were aiming at compactness of design, and were okay with some compromises in order to achieve it. (In the face of an un-compact cylinder layout which had to persist.)

Transmission efficiency aside . . . it all looks very impressive.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:16 AM   #2759
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That doesn't follow the pattern.

AIR head
OIL head
HEX head
CAM head
WET head

See, it needs three letters and two sylables!

Jim
Except there is no water in the heads. It is a waterboxer.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:25 AM   #2760
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Water flow. Rad on the left, tank on the right.

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Two radiators and only one on the right has a fan
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