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Old 10-04-2012, 09:33 AM   #3376
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And others are just minding their own business riding to work on a bike with just a top box on and the final drive snaps. Hmm good engineering there. Amazing what you see at the side of the M50 in Dublin.
Amazing what you see here happen all the time: saw a broken down ST1100 lately. So what?

And also amazing what I see here: Tigers stalling, not starting, getting paint bubbles on the engine, bouncing, ripping seat covers after 20 miles riding, ... it's not that Triumph that great a track record. Nothing big so far and that's good but quite a few small and not so small issues.

The Tiger 800 isn't an engineering marvel in any way. And you explicitly should know about them. The Tiger is good in comparison to the F bikes (which have about as many little niggling things as the Tigers), the Explorer still has to show that it's up to the task with the big GS.

What I'm explicitly referring to is someone saying the Explorer is an engineering success (which it still has to show, it's too new) and the new GS is an engineering failure - which is highly unlikely, as BMW has just too much experience with the big GS series to build something that doesn't work properly.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:12 AM   #3377
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I see there are many BMW lovers here, liking its emblem on the side.

I never had a BMW neither a motorcycle no a car, many of friends of mine did...

The latest BMW failure was within their warranty department which refused to repair internal failure 4 months before warranty expire but at 37K on my friends K bike - clutch basket desintegrated, really? Here



It's been in shop for 7 months now...

So, speaking of water/liquid cooled. The design is a joke, two earlike radiators on the sides and water ring around the heads? This to me is an excuse from BMW Engineering...

Teethlike beak, what purpose dies it solve? ...lights LED? Really, and a cooling fan? rails on the sides of the headlights, are they grab rails?

It amazes me when people like the knob adjusting windscreen angle/height, you must by kidding... Does it move left to right for crosswind confitions?

I had a dream of a GSA and had desktop on my PC, I watched all episodes of Charlie/Ewan comedy up until I started actually looking out to replace my Strom... Test rode Tenere, GSA, Tigers 800 and XC - nothing clicked in me... Up until the Explorer first came out in pictures (this is Explorer's thread, right?) then test rode it - I was sold.

Now, looking out to BMW and hoping they'll come up with something that looks good, designed good, drives good ... I expected everything but latest 700GS nor the day before yesterday 1200GS


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Old 10-04-2012, 10:18 AM   #3378
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I never had a BMW neither a motorcycle no a car, many of friends of mine did...
Oh, so you really are the most qualified person on earth to speak about them. Awesome. And buy ... great that this forum has a filter list ...
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:30 AM   #3379
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Oh, so you really are the most qualified person on earth to speak about them. Awesome. And buy ... great that this forum has a filter list ...
No I'm not, but I have Engineering Degree in Automotive Industry, specialized in engines and used to work as design engineer in one of the largest car plants in Russia, so I know EXACTLY how the motor NOT supposed to look like :-)


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Old 10-04-2012, 11:13 AM   #3380
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No I'm not, but I have Engineering Degree in Automotive Industry, specialized in engines and used to work as design engineer in one of the largest car plants in Russia, so I know EXACTLY how the motor NOT supposed to look like :-)


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Old 10-04-2012, 11:15 AM   #3381
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I see there are many BMW lovers here, liking its emblem on the side.
Then you will love this excerpt from page 35 of the BMW release:

"New GS logo.
The radiator cover bears the BMW logo and a revised GS inscription. For years, the GS logo has been defined by the typical stencil typeface with its robust character and vertical gap. The horizontal gap now gives the GS graphic an added touch of dynamic flair. The type designation R 1200 likewise boasts a new design."
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:20 AM   #3382
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Oh, so you really are the most qualified person on earth to speak about them. Awesome. And buy ... great that this forum has a filter list ...
Damn, you sure are a little touchy....
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:26 AM   #3383
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Damn you're a little touchy....
Na, I just don't want to spend time with ... ah, let's not get there.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:37 AM   #3384
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Just dropped in to get an update on how people are liking their new Triumphs.
Maybe checking back later would be best.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:47 AM   #3385
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I had one just like that.

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For those who don't know, it's a Lada (Russian take on a Fiat).
No, I was working at the plant building these, and yes, it's me too

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Old 10-04-2012, 11:55 AM   #3386
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Just dropped in to get an update on how people are liking their new Triumphs.
Maybe checking back later would be best.
Yee, everyone is chewing new GS ans Vee today...
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:56 AM   #3387
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:02 PM   #3388
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Oh, so you really are the most qualified person on earth to speak about them. Awesome. And buy ... great that this forum has a filter list ...

63 posts to the thread of a bike you could care less about yet you feel the need to continually come here and flog the participants with your flavor of "opinion". At some point that constant banter you bring is nothing more than a trollish approach to inject your garbage into this thread. You seem to relish in the constant little battles that arise every time you say something outlandish or what you are sure will get a response, pathetic. It is made even more comical when early in this thread you actually brought up Rema when in fact you seem to be acting alot like him...


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The Explorer doesn't even trigger a desire for a test ride for me..

Good, now move on...



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Old 10-04-2012, 12:44 PM   #3389
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Amazing what you see here happen all the time: saw a broken down ST1100 lately. So what?

And also amazing what I see here: Tigers stalling, not starting, getting paint bubbles on the engine, bouncing, ripping seat covers after 20 miles riding, ... it's not that Triumph that great a track record. Nothing big so far and that's good but quite a few small and not so small issues.

The Tiger 800 isn't an engineering marvel in any way. And you explicitly should know about them. The Tiger is good in comparison to the F bikes (which have about as many little niggling things as the Tigers), the Explorer still has to show that it's up to the task with the big GS.

What I'm explicitly referring to is someone saying the Explorer is an engineering success (which it still has to show, it's too new) and the new GS is an engineering failure - which is highly unlikely, as BMW has just too much experience with the big GS series to build something that doesn't work properly.
Never said the 800 was an engineering marvel. Only statement I made was in contradiction to your statement that people using and complaining about bmws were all overloading them and jumping The White Cliffs of Dover (exaggeration on my part). Bet the broken down ST didn't spit their rider off when the final drive FRACTURED whilst doing nothing more than riding on a smooth (ish) motorway. And as far as the rider was to be believed had never been on a rough track.

Oh & my 800 is a marvel. Never stalled, no bubbling engine paint. Just runs, needs fuel every 330 odd km and looks great in the rain - of which we've had a lot this year.
Personally the statement about marvels and failures should obviously be treated with a large dollop of salt.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:50 PM   #3390
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Bimer are not alone with 30 year experience :-) But the new RR1000 kinda put that argument away.
Anyway here is + 30 year Triumph
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