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Old 10-04-2012, 02:18 PM   #16846
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His pillion needs to gear up...she could get a tear!
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:22 PM   #16847
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[QUOTEMaybe because your "range" is a fucking parking lot! On top of the fact you're riding cruisers with shit controls.

So if your basing your skill standards on what works in a parking lot safely on bikes with shitty brakes I really don't know what to say.[/QUOTE]

That is exactly what and where the MSF teaches.

Nobody is listening anymore, especially the two of you.

MSF isn't perfect (not even close) but it's what they teach. So, how about you end this fucking horse beating, or go get a job with them and change the curriculum? Bitching about it here won't do any good.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:27 PM   #16848
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oh sorry I was looking for the Killboy Failure Dragon Fest thread.................
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:30 PM   #16849
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I'm pretty sure the Killboy failure Dragon Fest is around here somewhere....
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:37 PM   #16850
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I'm pretty sure the Killboy failure Dragon Fest is around here somewhere....
Here it is... oh no got it wrong again. But at least there are bikes....
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:40 PM   #16851
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You really haven't made any solid argument why using less than 4 fingers on the brake a) should be taught to beginning students, b) reduces control on the street, or c) is somehow superior.
Really? I didn't let's recap:
You're sacrificing your grip on the bar, for whatever reason you might need a better hold of the bars, to work around either shitty brakes, or shitty teaching. In the event of a panic situation your body will automatically tighten the hand into a fist (ever seen how beginners are death gripping the bars) which in addition to degradation of fine motor skills will make braking accurately extremely hard, when the most accuracy is needed.

On bikes with real brakes gripping with all four fingers and applying the brakes hard could easily create a front skid or endo (with good tires and pavement and a shortish wheel base).

My opinion on what should be taught to new students is pretty simple with instructions something like this:

"When it comes to how many fingers you want to use on the brakes use what you feel comfortable with. Take your bike out to a safe place and practice a few hard stops, if you find your fingers getting caught between the bar and the grips you might need to service your brakes or adjust your levers out. However some bikes and riders will just require more strength or travel in those cases you might need to use four fingers on the brakes. The most important part is you figure out what works for you and your bike."

Boom, let the student choose instead of forcing dogma on them.

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Hey, here's a puzzler for you: If only using 2 fingers is "proper" braking, why don't all bikes come from the factory with just a 2-finger front brake lever? Why do they appear to be designed to accommodate all four fingers?

...Orygunner...
Because a long lever gives people the ability to do what they want either way, and not all bikes do. My ktm 200exc and my friends 450exc came with what I'd call a 3 finger lever for the brakes.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:44 PM   #16852
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:51 PM   #16853
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I'm not quite sure WTF this thing is, but there's too many wheels, so fail

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Old 10-04-2012, 02:58 PM   #16854
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I'm not quite sure WTF this thing is, but there's too many wheels, so fail

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Has to be wild doing night time runs down the mountain with that thing. What happens when a deer steps out, or worse yet a bear? I'd hate to smack a bear and piss him off...........
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:44 PM   #16855
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:02 PM   #16856
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I'm pretty sure the Killboy failure Dragon Fest is around here somewhere....
It appears to have been having a brake.

But I just seen some piccies, so all good.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:26 PM   #16857
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It appears to have been having a brake.

But I just seen some piccies, so all good.
And don't forget the shitty advice (again the myth that if you use four fingers you're going to grab really hard) that can only lead to one thing.... "ABS... making bad riders look good"


If four fingers is so bad why is it also taught in intermediate and advanced course? Also holding on with the knees and not the arms is taught as well.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:29 PM   #16858
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Hey, here's an idea, take it to the no one gives a shit thread? sheesh.

and WTF is this....is that a bear? or a man in a bear costume? ops, just noticed the blood. its a bear.


Bear.

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Old 10-04-2012, 06:49 PM   #16859
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I'm not quite sure WTF this thing is, but there's too many wheels, so fail

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Dug through the blog's directory to get a differnet looky at this thang:



Seems to be a cult Big Wheel® downhill thing on the Dragon.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:53 PM   #16860
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