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Old 10-06-2012, 10:15 AM   #25381
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I've had spoke heads break off at the hub, usually on cheap wheels, but never had a nipple break. What sort of wheel was this?
I'm betting on aluminum nipples, plus an under-tensioned wheel. Al doesn't like cyclic loads, and an under-tensioned wheel will mean that each individual spoke and nipple experiences greater extremes of load.

I found a couple of broken nipples on my girlfriend's mountain bike, last time we were preparing to go for a ride. Aluminum nipples, stock machine-built wheels.

I've used aluminum nipples on some of the wheels I've built, but since I was hand-building I could ensure that they were properly tensioned; So far no problems.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:20 PM   #25382
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that sounds/looks like a comfort bike to me??

zero need for suspension forks on pavement. 40mm are really fat tires for a bike trail hybrid, especially for a 120lb rider (I'm using 35's on my hybrid and I'm 210lbs). I'll take 32's or 35's over all sorts of hard pack dirt. deep sand sucks on anything other a pugsley

something more like the Giant Escape would be much more suitable for the sorts of riding you're describing, and make the miles much more enjoyable.
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/...specifications

(or the 0.w (more $) or 2.w (less $))
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:53 PM   #25383
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:24 AM   #25384
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Motobecane?

A local rider is looking for an inexpensive road bike. One model he's particularly interested in, because of it's low price, is the Motobecane 'Immortal Ice'. The thing that's holding him back is that Motobecane seems to have a bad reputation. I've only owned one Motobecane (600DS) and it proved to be a heap of junk, but I don't know whether that's representative of the entire brand. Anyone here know?

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Old 10-07-2012, 07:50 AM   #25385
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A local rider is looking for an inexpensive road bike. One model he's particularly interested in, because of it's low price, is the Motobecane 'Immortal Ice'. The thing that's holding him back is that Motobecane seems to have a bad reputation. I've only owned one Motobecane (600DS) and it proved to be a heap of junk, but I don't know whether that's representative of the entire brand. Anyone here know?

These days Motobecane, Raleigh, and whatever other brand that Bikes Direct is selling are basically made in asia bikes that'll be just fine. Tubing, etc may not be quite as nice as say Specialized, Giant, or Trek (which come out of the same factories) but it'll be just fine.

I'm fixin to go to a cross race. Its in the 50s and sorta rainy. Should be awesome!

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Old 10-07-2012, 09:39 AM   #25386
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These days Motobecane, Raleigh, and whatever other brand that Bikes Direct is selling are basically made in asia bikes that'll be just fine. Tubing, etc may not be quite as nice as say Specialized, Giant, or Trek (which come out of the same factories) but it'll be just fine.

I'm fixin to go to a cross race. Its in the 50s and sorta rainy. Should be awesome!

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Sounds like cross weather to me. Go get 'em.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:28 AM   #25387
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These days Motobecane, Raleigh, and whatever other brand that Bikes Direct is selling are basically made in asia bikes that'll be just fine. Tubing, etc may not be quite as nice as say Specialized, Giant, or Trek (which come out of the same factories) but it'll be just fine.

I'm fixin to go to a cross race. Its in the 50s and sorta rainy. Should be awesome!

M
Giant is an actual builder, they also apparently make the frames for all but the most expensive Treks.. Specialized apparently uses a lot of different builders. . I believe (but I'm not sure) that Bike Direct are Giant, too.

Ths article has some interesting tidbits in it. http://cyclingiq.com/2012/02/14/shad...rtner-paradox/

re: Bike Direct, you get what you pay for. ignore the brand name on those bikes, its just a decal... They sell low end junk and decent mid range bikes. You the consumer are responsible for setup, if you don't set the bike up right, you'll have a lousy experience, if you do, you'll get a decent bike for a great price.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:26 PM   #25388
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Sounds like cross weather to me. Go get 'em.
So I get to the race course and signed in. Went back to the car to get changed and start warming up.

Rode around Hyattsville, MD for a little bit, then wandered around the race course to see if they'd changed it from last year. Yup. Small stuff, but the course is indeed different. The section thru the woods especially.

So I get to the start line and go to hop a curb. Whack! WTF?! I stuck 29psi in the rear tire there should be a whack when I go over a curb.

...bout that time they call the M 3/4 aka Killer B's to the staging area so I don't have time to go to the car to pump up the tire.

So I hafta race on it as is.

I lost a bunch of places in the start cause I was tentative. Both in the crowd and of my rear wheel. First turn and sure nuff! Starts rolling over and squidging sideways. Drat! I hope it doesn't get any worse thru the race.

Speaking of which... its mid- to high-50s and off and on drizzly. The drizzle held off thru our race, but the course was fairly wet overall.

So I get going and in every corner the rear tire squidges around and in some of em it actually loses grip enough to send the ass end of my bike skipping sideways a foot or so. Managed to catch it every time, but its disconcerting...

I could turn on the power (somewhat. Tired legs again) on the straights. Rear tire felt fan-farging-tastic on the straights. Absorbed all the clumps of grass, etc. Like riding on a cloud. Then I hit a turn and had to tip-toe thru the turn so I could lay on the power in the straights again. This came back to haunt me on the last couple of corners...

The course was wet, but not especially slippery. Odd combo. ...till you go into the woods. This year's woods section was a bunch of off-camber stuff with tree roots going across the trail. Pretty much every time I hit the top of the first turn in the woods, I slid sideways till I ran out of tree root.

So you get to the top of the first hill. To the left are a couple of 6" or so dia tree roots so you don't wanna go there. The good line is to the right over the 1" dia tree roots. Aim for the opposite side of the trail to get to the next corner to set up for the off-camber, loose, tree-rooty second half of the hill. I managed to get it right the first lap, then ended up in a hay bale or unclipped from the bike the next two, then was too close to the guy in front of me so ran the last one.

Top to bottom you may lose 30-45'. The pitches themselves are maybe 10-15' per. Nothing too extreme, but the combination of racing and skinny tires = lots of enjoyment for the crowd watching that spot.

Right before the finishing straight they had a corkscrew inside a baseball diamond. I'd been holding off this dood in a black skinsuit with red polka dots on it for most of the last few laps. Because I had to tip-toe thru the corners he managed to catch me right before the last turn and get past. I ended up half a lap behind the leaders in 47th. Started 2 rows from the end in a field of appx 90.

All in all not a bad day after my legs had actually warmed up some.

Things to change: actually bring (and use) the trainer I got specifically for cross warmups. I seem to need a good hour of riding before my legs want to go hard. Its hard to get a good warmup JRA around the venue.

Double check pressure before heading out to pre-ride the course.

Get more aggressive in the start so I don't have to pass as many people later.

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Old 10-07-2012, 03:55 PM   #25389
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Had a chance to get out on my new GT today. This was probably about the 5-6th ride on this bike. I had a small window to get out before a couch was to be delivered today, and taking out one of the motorcycles would not have been worth it. With the amount of cash I have dropped on motorcycling gear, and outside the MTB helmet, I refuse to drop cash on a lot of bicycle related clothing.

It was a tad chilly, and somewhat rainy(intermittent) today here in NJ, so I geared up with some full length spandex pants( usually worn under my dual sport pants), a pair or Army PT shorts, and my bright orange Klim pull over. I looked like a weird pumkin.



I got in about 10 miles total. Also from my motorcycling gear, I use a RAM mount and smart phone holder. I am able to record my tracks with it, and use it as a GPS when needed..so it is pretty useful. Today's route:

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...9700fe98&msa=0

It was good to get out on the bike. I have noticed that the last few times I have been out on dirt bike, my endurance has been a little better..so its doing its job..and fun.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:23 PM   #25390
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and I got in a 6 or so mile ride on my hybrid, putzing along at an easy pace.

they closed a few miles of West Cliff Dr today from 9-1 as a trial run for "Open Streets Santa Cruz", there were vendors, bands, drum circles, and lots and lots of people milling around the street, dogs, kids, roller bladers, a tandem pulling a full sized sofa on a trailer with a boom box (love it!) stilt walkers, a couple grungy double-decker bikes, and a gentlement in period clothes on a penny farthing!


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great fun.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:40 PM   #25391
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......, a tandem pulling a full sized sofa on a trailer with a boom box (love it!)
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..... I had a small window to get out before a couch was to be delivered today,....
I take it that your couch arrived in good shape?
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:44 PM   #25392
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I take it that your couch arrived in good shape?
Well, yes. Thanks for asking. It was actually a replacement loveseat for one we got delivered three weeks ago, that got scratched/tear in the leather. They gave us the old" we'll be there between the hrs of 10 am and 4 pm."

So right before 9 am, I told wife I was gonna try to get out for a short ride on the bicycle.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:44 PM   #25393
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and I got in a 6 or so mile ride on my hybrid, putzing along at an easy pace.

they closed a few miles of West Cliff Dr today from 9-1 as a trial run for "Open Streets Santa Cruz", there were vendors, bands, drum circles, and lots and lots of people milling around the street, dogs, kids, roller bladers, a tandem pulling a full sized sofa on a trailer with a boom box (love it!) stilt walkers, a couple grungy double-decker bikes, and a gentlement in period clothes on a penny farthing!


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great fun.
Sounds like a great time! I wish it were safe and legal to ride the 1
the entire USA west coast by bicycle....one can dream.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:54 PM   #25394
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Sounds like a great time! I wish it were safe and legal to ride the 1
the entire USA west coast by bicycle....one can dream.
THe Pacific Coast Bike Route mostly follows 1 the whole way. It was created in 1976, I believe. The signage has largely faded away but the route is still in the books, from Vancouver to the Mexican Border.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:07 PM   #25395
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THe Pacific Coast Bike Route mostly follows 1 the whole way. It was created in 1976, I believe. The signage has largely faded away but the route is still in the books, from Vancouver to the Mexican Border.
Really? I thought it was not legal up by Big Sur down near San Simeon. Maybe it was walking.

I may have found my next adventure!
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