I'm starting to get the anti-HD vibe

[EetsOK]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

I agree, ride your own ride, but I think BCC had it right. Let people pass. People in Germany have no problem letting others go about their business. On in America do assholes hang out in the left lane and hit the brakes because they are somehow offended by you wanting to go faster then them.

Canada too.
Had it happen yesterday outside of Kelowna BC, one of the worst places in the whole world to drive. This what people who used to live in India tell me.

[DavidBanner]

Originally Posted by opmike

How did you come to the conclusion that this was due to you being on a Harley-Davidson and not just them being assholes or otherwise unconcerned about you? You're not the first person to be stuck being a bunch of guys in their own parade. Also, not everyone is going to let you by just because you're riding at a faster pace, and if they are going the speed limit, they quite frankly have no obligation to do so beyond courtesy.

personally, in most life situations, i feel an obligation to be courteous.

[sargev55]

Originally Posted by DavidBanner

personally, in most life situations, i feel an obligation to be courteous.

i agree with that, and welcome to the board

[scrannel]

Originally Posted by capriccio

The HD riders pay taxes and are entitled to their pursuit of happiness, especially when there is many more of them to kick your ass if your pursuit happiness interferes with theirs.

Last time an HD rider tried to kick my ass he got tangled up by the tubes in his colostomy bag.

[capriccio]

Originally Posted by DavidBanner

personally, in most life situations, i feel an obligation to be courteous.

no one is saying not to be courteous but there are people that wont be and its their free choice. On the other hand I do not expect 100 cruisers to pull over so I can pass, so I'll be courteous and pull over and scratch my balls for 15 'minutes.

[sargev55]

Originally Posted by capriccio

no one is saying not to be courteous but there are people that wont be and its their free choice. On the other hand I do not expect 100 cruisers to pull over so I can pass, so I'll be courteous and pull over and scratch my balls for 15 'minutes.

meant to add,

if you have to scratch that long, might wanna get that checked out lol

[DavidBanner]

Originally Posted by capriccio

no one is saying not to be courteous but there are people that wont be and its their free choice. On the other hand I do not expect 100 cruisers to pull over so I can pass, so I'll be courteous and pull over and scratch my balls for 15 'minutes.

you may want to see a doctor about that.

DB

[0ldhippie]

Originally Posted by sargev55

meant to add,

if you have to scratch that long, might wanna get that checked out lol

I think its code for not exactly scratching something just above the balls.

[Ginger Beard]

Originally Posted by capriccio

no one is saying not to be courteous but there are people that wont be and its their free choice. On the other hand I do not expect 100 cruisers to pull over so I can pass, so I'll be courteous and pull over and scratch my balls for 15 'minutes.

Exactly. Courtesy is what is is...An option, not an obligation and courtesy goes both ways. It's courteous to let people pass when practical and it's courteous to allow those that are out for a leisurely cruise to allow them to do so without feeling pressure from other rider to either pull over or pick up the pace (possibly riding beyond their limits).

No one answered the question I posed earlier. Should slower riders pull over for every rider that wants to get by them?

[AZbiker]

Originally Posted by Ginger Beard

No one answered the question I posed earlier. Should slower riders pull over for every rider that wants to get by them?

I do. Can't speak for anyone else though.

That said, it doesn't happen very often and it's gonna be a good ride in the mountains when it does!

Pulling over isn't a big deal on a bike. Lay off the throttle, dress right and wave 'em by.

[TT RDHS]

Originally Posted by AZbiker

I do. Can't speak for anyone else though.

That said, it doesn't happen very often and it's gonna be a good ride in the mountains when it does!

Pulling over isn't a big deal on a bike. Lay off the throttle, dress right and wave 'em by.

+1

[PhilB]

Originally Posted by Ginger Beard

Exactly. Courtesy is what is is...An option, not an obligation and courtesy goes both ways. It's courteous to let people pass when practical and it's courteous to allow those that are out for a leisurely cruise to allow them to do so without feeling pressure from other rider to either pull over or pick up the pace (possibly riding beyond their limits).

No one answered the question I posed earlier. Should slower riders pull over for every rider that wants to get by them?

Awww. The idea that a driver or rider should pay some attention, drive/ride his own ride, and let others do the same is SO traumatic. The awful awful pressure of letting someone pass you!

If you want a leisurely cruise, take one. Great. If someone else doesn't want a leisurely cruise, let him the hell by -- you'll BOTH be happier.

And yes, slower riders should pull over for every rider that wants to get by them. When safe, of course -- it's OK to wait for the next intersection or pullout, but do it reasonably soon, and don't be an ass and try to make others behave as you would like them to just out of spite.

PhilB

[AZbiker]

Originally Posted by TT RDHS

+1

How you doin'?

I'm still riding the big black pig...you?

[Ginger Beard]

Originally Posted by PhilB

Awww. The idea that a driver or rider should pay some attention, drive/ride his own ride, and let others do the same is SO traumatic.

PhilB

The irony here is friggin' hilarious.


The point that many seem to be missing is that this "ride your own ride and be courteous" mindset can not be one sided. You don't get to tell others they should or must let you by when you aren't willing to understand that perhaps you should or must allow them to enjoy their ride as well. Again, it goes both ways.


Personally I prefer to be courteous and let people pass but I don't have to nor do I get my panties in a twist when people don't let my ride as fast as I would like to be riding.

[PhilB]

Originally Posted by Ginger Beard

The irony here is friggin' hilarious.

The point that many seem to be missing is that this "ride your own ride and be courteous" mindset can not be one sided. You don't get to tell others they should or must let you by when you aren't willing to understand that perhaps you should or must allow them to enjoy their ride as well. Again, it goes both ways.

Personally I prefer to be courteous and let people pass but I don't have to nor do I get my panties in a twist when people don't let my ride as fast as I would like to be riding.

Wait, so to enjoy their leisurely cruise, it is essential to it that no else get to go around them? Bullshit. If I come up behind someone, I am 100% fine with letting that person enjoy his ride. That's great. I'm not asking him to speed up, or to change his riding style or plan. All I am asking is that he let me enjoy mine as well. If he lets me pass, then I'm off and gone, and not interfereing with his ride or his enjoyment one tiny little bit -- no conflict, no problem. But if he creates a conflict, then there is going to be tension, and *neither* of us will be enjoying our rides as much (unless he actually does get enjoyment out of making other people upset, in which case he's a genuine ass and deserves no consideration in return). What the hell good does that do, for anyone?

The situation is not symmetrical. The guy who wants to pass is NOT interfering in any way with the person who wants a slower ride. He just wants to be allowed to go on his way, and leave the other guy to ride however he wants, and thus each gets his own way, and BOTH can be happy with their respective rides. The slow guy who blocks the faster guy, OTOH, is being an ass, because he is not content to enjoy his own ride in his own way and let others do the same.

PhilB