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Old 10-07-2012, 07:22 PM   #25396
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Really? I thought it was not legal up by Big Sur down near San Simeon. Maybe it was walking.

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Old 10-07-2012, 10:00 PM   #25397
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Other than missing the proper size clamp for the front derailleur, the new ride is built up and ready to go:



It's a 2004 LeMond Arrivee. Only the fork and stem are original, everything else is new, an LBS take-off, or donated from my 'cross bike.

Since the 'cross bike donated its shifters, derailleurs and cassette (Ultegra), it received a SRAM drivetrain as a replacement (Apex and Rival with a 10-32 cassette). I rode it today and think I may be a convert to DoubleTap. Very nice.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:22 AM   #25398
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Other than missing the proper size clamp for the front derailleur, the new ride is built up and ready to go:



It's a 2004 LeMond Arrivee. Only the fork and stem are original, everything else is new, an LBS take-off, or donated from my 'cross bike.

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Old 10-08-2012, 05:16 AM   #25399
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:25 AM   #25400
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A local rider is looking for an inexpensive road bike. One model he's particularly interested in, because of it's low price, is the Motobecane 'Immortal Ice'. The thing that's holding him back is that Motobecane seems to have a bad reputation. I've only owned one Motobecane (600DS) and it proved to be a heap of junk, but I don't know whether that's representative of the entire brand. Anyone here know?

I got my MTB partner onto one of these. The only issue is that the rear triangle is not perfectly square (I've seen that from the big names, too). Unacceptable to me, but, he chose to not warranty it. It's a nice riding bike with a nice drivetrain. The components are worth what the bike costs.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:29 AM   #25401
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Really? I thought it was not legal up by Big Sur down near San Simeon. Maybe it was walking.

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Old 10-08-2012, 10:06 AM   #25402
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I've had spoke heads break off at the hub, usually on cheap wheels, but never had a nipple break. What sort of wheel was this?
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I'm betting on aluminum nipples, plus an under-tensioned wheel. Al doesn't like cyclic loads, and an under-tensioned wheel will mean that each individual spoke and nipple experiences greater extremes of load.

I found a couple of broken nipples on my girlfriend's mountain bike, last time we were preparing to go for a ride. Aluminum nipples, stock machine-built wheels.

I've used aluminum nipples on some of the wheels I've built, but since I was hand-building I could ensure that they were properly tensioned; So far no problems.
Def aluminum nipple, tension was good (AFAIK - I do check them periodically as I'm on the larger side, so last time was prob a month ago )

I was out riding this weekend so I have only just got round to looking at this.

This is what I found :







So the rim is cracked. Bike is about 2 years old and I have Mavics on my other bike that have been fine so not sure what happened here. Is this a warranty job do you think ? No idea how long rims are warrantied if at all
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:08 AM   #25403
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"You don't need a $7000 road bike."

That, in essence, is what the sales manager at a Trek dealership told me this weekend when I asked what the practical difference is between their top of the line Madone P1 and the lower end version Madone, which costs around $5000 less. He said that a pro racer or even a top level amateur could tell the difference between a modestly priced road bike and one equipped with all the cutting edge technology, and also be able to capitalize on those differences. But as for the remaining 95% of riders like me who only ride on weekends and don't race, he said buying a high dollar model would just be a case of throwing money away. Thoughts?


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Old 10-08-2012, 11:14 AM   #25404
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That, in essence, is what the sales manager at a Trek dealership told me this weekend when I asked what the practical difference is between their top of the line Madone P1 and the lower end version Madone, which costs around $5000 less. He said that a pro racer or even a top level amateur could tell the difference between a modestly priced road bike and one equipped with all the cutting edge technology, and also be able to capitalize on those differences. But as for the remaining 95% of riders like me who only ride on weekends and don't race, he said buying a high dollar model would just be a case of throwing money away. Thoughts?


Yes and no. The more expensive bike is going to ride nicer and the parts are going to last longer, but no, you (or I, or Ridge, or...) don't NEED that kind of bike. The ones that need it get em given to em.

I train on a 12 year old AL frame with a carbon rear end. Its not as light as the bikes that some of the guys I ride with are. It has Rival on it not Red. It has 32 spoke wheels on it not carbon clinchers.

So what?! I typically end up handing most of those guys their asses just like I have mine handed to me by other guys.

You wanna win the 'fanciest bike at Starbucks' prize? Go for it.

Having said that, if the fancy stuff makes you WANT to go riding, then its worth every penny. If it sits there in the garage and turns into a clothes hanger, you wasted your $ no matter what you spent.

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Old 10-08-2012, 11:51 AM   #25405
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Yes and no. The more expensive bike is going to ride nicer and the parts are going to last longer, but no, you (or I, or Ridge, or...) don't NEED that kind of bike. The ones that need it get em given to em.

I train on a 12 year old AL frame with a carbon rear end. Its not as light as the bikes that some of the guys I ride with are. It has Rival on it not Red. It has 32 spoke wheels on it not carbon clinchers.

So what?! I typically end up handing most of those guys their asses just like I have mine handed to me by other guys.
That's pretty much what I figured.

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You wanna win the 'fanciest bike at Starbucks' prize? Go for it.

Having said that, if the fancy stuff makes you WANT to go riding, then its worth every penny. If it sits there in the garage and turns into a clothes hanger, you wasted your $ no matter what you spent.

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Both my road bike and mountain bikes are top of the line in their respective classes. I bought them only because I got them at a 'last years model' price, but I felt very self conscious the first few times I rode them. I kept imagining that other riders must be looking at me and thinking to themselves, "WTF is some novice rider like him doing on a bike like THAT?"

Not being thought of as some poser was part of the reason I pushed so hard to get better. I couldn't stand the thought of being passed by people on shitty bikes.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:37 PM   #25406
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Really? I thought it was not legal up by Big Sur down near San Simeon. Maybe it was walking.

I may have found my next adventure!
Here's the map set for it. www.adventurecycling.org/routes/pacificcoast.cfm

It's a tour I'd love to do.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:42 PM   #25407
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So the rim is cracked. Bike is about 2 years old and I have Mavics on my other bike that have been fine so not sure what happened here. Is this a warranty job do you think ? No idea how long rims are warrantied if at all
Have the dealer contact Mavic, direct. They should take care of it.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:45 PM   #25408
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Def aluminum nipple, tension was good (AFAIK - I do check them periodically as I'm on the larger side, so last time was prob a month ago )

I was out riding this weekend so I have only just got round to looking at this.

This is what I found :







So the rim is cracked. Bike is about 2 years old and I have Mavics on my other bike that have been fine so not sure what happened here. Is this a warranty job do you think ? No idea how long rims are warrantied if at all


Those wheels may have a two year warrenty, mine did, I had the next one up in line, they did the same thing it took about three years to happen. Go to your LBS they may be able to help with warrenty info.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:59 PM   #25409
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Have the dealer contact Mavic, direct. They should take care of it.
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Those wheels may have a two year warrenty, mine did, I had the next one up in line, they did the same thing it took about three years to happen. Go to your LBS they may be able to help with warrenty info.
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I bought the bike from BikesDirect so I'll try them first...not that I am holding my breath at all

LBS is a pretty good shop so I might see what they say - if nothing else they might have some good contact info.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:00 PM   #25410
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Yes and no. The more expensive bike is going to ride nicer and the parts are going to last longer, but no, you (or I, or Ridge, or...) don't NEED that kind of bike. The ones that need it get em given to em.

I train on a 12 year old AL frame with a carbon rear end. Its not as light as the bikes that some of the guys I ride with are. It has Rival on it not Red. It has 32 spoke wheels on it not carbon clinchers.

So what?! I typically end up handing most of those guys their asses just like I have mine handed to me by other guys.

You wanna win the 'fanciest bike at Starbucks' prize? Go for it.

Having said that, if the fancy stuff makes you WANT to go riding, then its worth every penny. If it sits there in the garage and turns into a clothes hanger, you wasted your $ no matter what you spent.

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He speaks the truth...

I race a Cannondale CAAD9. It is deceptively light, fast, responsive and regularly still receives compliments and praise from other racers with full hi-mod carbon rides that cost thousands more. In the end, the bike is only as good as the rider piloting it. Anyone with money can walk into a bike shop and plunk down egregious amounts for the latest technology in cycling. Despite that fact and their pompous belief... the purchase of aforementioned bicycle does NOT make them a better rider or carry weight with any genuine riders.
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