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Old 10-12-2012, 02:33 AM   #16
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Well, to my point about connections without any dielectric grease...here's one that I missed on my 640.

The 640 developed a miss and, ultimately, I traced it to where the ignition wire connects with the plug boot.

I don't think that is corrosion billy. Their has been a gap develop between those contacts and the spark has had to jump between them. This is the result of that. It does look like water damage but it is not. I'm sure someone could explain this, and the process that causes that result.
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:55 AM   #17
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I don't think that is corrosion billy. Their has been a gap develop between those contacts and the spark has had to jump between them. This is the result of that. It does look like water damage but it is not. I'm sure someone could explain this, and the process that causes that result.
Very possible indeed.

I should also note, however, that there was a very slight amount of condensation underneath the rubber cap. Not much, but it was there nonetheless.

BTW, I don't wash this bike very often (i.e., maybe 5 times since 2008)...
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:32 PM   #18
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Like you I don't wash often. These bikes seem to look almost clean all the time.

I'll follow through on this to ad to the knowledge base

I just recently had a miss in my car. It has a RS Liberty motor, the old Colin McRae WRC winner (The original WRX but with the benifit of a closed deck) and is a great motor to boost, and thrash. It is great fun like a bike only on 4 wheels ....... I put it in in 2000. This is my first and only car (22 years) My first 20 years were only on bikes

1975 the 750/4 K2



It had this annoying miss. With the programmable engine management system I tried richening it, leaning it..... it went on for weeks. I decided to wash the silicon leads and one had slipped out of the coil pack and had been arking...... that was the miss..... I cleaned it up, it looks just like yours. Arking where it should not be arking. It leaves a sort of green deposit.



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Old 10-13-2012, 10:14 AM   #19
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My bike died once and the problem was the wires coming from the ignition switch to where the wires go past the frame. There is a certain amount of play in the wires so you can turn the handle bars and after 50k miles the wires broke inside the insulation. After I started digging around it turns out that several of the wires were broken to the point of only one or two strands being connected. I have pictures somewhere, I'll see if I can dig them up.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:15 PM   #20
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You guys are proof indeed that an old dog can learn new tricks...

I have for years used liberal amounts of dielectric grease on all my off-road bike electrical connectors, but I never realized that it should NOT be used on the contacts themselves.

With that said, I usually ride the dirt bikes during the winter months in wet, muddy conditions and the resulting corrosion associated with having nothing on the contacts has historically been much worse than having dielectric grease liberally applied. I can't remember any connector on which I used dielectric grease failing, but I have had failures with connectors on which nothing was used.

I'm going to get me some of that NO-OX-ID or DC-4 stuff.
take a tralier hitch wire harness driven on salted roads, it will turn green and fail. covered with dielectric inside and out on pins it will last forever.
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