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Old 10-12-2012, 10:41 AM   #5941
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None.

But worry not, I have a solid background (well ... years ago) at programing computers (C++, Fortran, ADA, Forth, Assembler, Basic), and Programmable Logic Controllers (PLC, Omron, Modicon, Telemecanic, Allen Bradley, Siemens) . What is happening into an ECU is far lower level then that, and certainly not Chinese to me. I understand pretty well that this particular ECU. You are not really programming it. You download a firmware to the Bosch controller (this is the program in fact). Then you punch parameters and tables. There lies the pudding and the pain from what i've seen so far.

Each and every time someone starts a project with an ECU at the very moment the crowd starts to salivate, the project falls for whatever reason starting from "no more time", "no more resources", all the way to "Jesus !!! This is too complicated !!!" It does not seem to be anything linear in those tables. Combustion chambers is evidently a field of expertise very creative at generating unexplanable exceptions.

I'm very curious at your project. And eager to here more.

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This will be my 5th stand alone ECU project, no stranger to it. It's not difficult but it's not hard either. Technology will allow some pretty serious data logging that I can share via Email with my tuner. I'll do a day on the dyno, followed by some trail riding/data logging and then a race. We'll be pretty well tuned by then. At that point Bob will do some desert testing, followed by an entire season of ice racing by me and lastly..... The Mexican 1000! The ice racing and desert riding will assure that the cold weather, hot weather and altitude compensation is correct.

Unfortunately, I don't see the harness or map being exported to Canada
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:02 AM   #5942
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I am not a fan of windscreens on this bike as I use mine mostly in situations where it would be a hindrance more than a help....so I think it depends on where and how you ride.

If I did use on on the 690, I would go for something like this as it is easily removed once off the slab:







But I LOVE MotoZ Tractionators:

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Old 10-12-2012, 11:27 AM   #5943
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Just the Windscreen?

Novamoto,

How does the KTM Touring Windscreen by itself work at keeping the wind off your chest at highway speeds? I don't mind the wind around the helmet as long as it is not too turbulent.

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Old 10-12-2012, 11:40 AM   #5944
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Novamoto,

How does the KTM Touring Windscreen by itself work at keeping the wind off your chest at highway speeds? I don't mind the wind around the helmet as long as it is not too turbulent.

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I'm 5"8, the windshield alone puts the wind about 5-6" down from my chin. so it definitely helps take the pressure off my chest at highway+ speeds...The deflector puts it in the middle of my helmet instead of coming up the btm. Much quieter...

I'm kinda thinking i should just stick with what I got & not spend a bunch of money on something (Fairing) that just looks cool & won't really gain me anything from where I'm at...
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:46 AM   #5945
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Novamoto,

How does the KTM Touring Windscreen by itself work at keeping the wind off your chest at highway speeds? I don't mind the wind around the helmet as long as it is not too turbulent.

Thanks,

MrHix
I just got a KTM screen a couple of weeks back. It definitely eases the full body press wind (for me anyway - 6 ft.). I'm quite comfortable at highway speeds now, provided I wear my full face touring helmet. If I wear the Shoie Hornet dual sport, the deflected air flow seems to connect perfectly with the peak on the helmet and tries to rip it off your head . I'm thinking of drilling some vent holes in the peak to ease the effect.
But overall, +1 on the touring screen.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:50 AM   #5946
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Its my bike... Fastened it in the tankbolts under the seat. The ones that fixates the rear fender.
Its very good to pull the bike back. Not so good to lift the bike. As you say it will pull agains the seat in that case...
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hey....
does anyone know how the rear strap in this pic is secured?
it's near the fuel cap.
i was thinking about wrapping one around the seat but i may rip the seat off when tugging.

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Old 10-12-2012, 11:54 AM   #5947
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Windscreen?

Killl 2 Birds with one stone, www.brittaniacomposites.com

They are in the Vendor section also, or just check the site. After 2 years in the same boat, my travelling getting longer and closer to the night hours, I picked up a Lynx Fairing and took a gamble with my $$$!!

Works for me, and the lighting...sweet sassy molassy the lighting....

I've spent alot of time and energy trying to fabricate my own, and only moderate success. Fun trying though! Combined with the great overall look, the wind protection, and the new dashboard, worth every penny for me...

No pics of mine, must.get.smugmug...but lots around on the web for viewing!

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:06 PM   #5948
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My screen/mask is stock. My post was in response to the lad with the velcro screen add-on.

It looks nice, I guess, but I would trash it under an hour in the woods. I've torn my GoPro from my helmet at speed!

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Novamoto,

How does the KTM Touring Windscreen by itself work at keeping the wind off your chest at highway speeds? I don't mind the wind around the helmet as long as it is not too turbulent.

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Old 10-12-2012, 06:28 PM   #5949
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Unfortunately, I don't see the harness or map being exported to Canada
We'll come from underground to grab it ...

You're certainly aware Bob entered a pretty intensive love-hate relationship with his fuel pump that affected drastically his average yearly millage ? He's been in the dez often, for sure, but repeating unfortunate events prevented winds to blasts his (pretty well maintained) scalp too often. If you want Bob to test it, you'll most probably have to convince Seth to flushes all of his hopes into that rally car, and take back seriously his duties at figuring out an alternative to our collective pump misery.

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Old 10-12-2012, 07:36 PM   #5950
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OK,

Thanks for the replies folks.

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Old 10-12-2012, 09:46 PM   #5951
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nasty arm pump

Soooo, a while back there was some discussion about trying to gain a little more controll over the throttle, most notibaly in slower, more techy terrain. Any of you guys had any success? I get some wicked throttle hand/arm pump going, trying to keep this little bitch steady at slower speeds. Seems like its either full on or full off with no middle ground. The whisky throttle comments gave me a good chuckle, as that was all me yesterday, pumped silly unable to shut her down careening through the baby heads.
I have the softest KTM throttle cam installed...not sure that really helped much. I've also messed around with the performance settings a bunch and yes the soft setting (3-?) is indeed a little better, but not better enough to warrant de-tuning this bike that much. The throttle was still super snatchy down low.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:36 AM   #5952
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We'll come from underground to grab it ...

You're certainly aware Bob entered a pretty intensive love-hate relationship with his fuel pump that affected drastically his average yearly millage ? He's been in the dez often, for sure, but repeating unfortunate events prevented winds to blasts his (pretty well maintained) scalp too often. If you want Bob to test it, you'll most probably have to convince Seth to flushes all of his hopes into that rally car, and take back seriously his duties at figuring out an alternative to our collective pump misery.

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It's not the pump anyway. My Berg has the same pump and it runs great, every time without fail. The Vortex solved my running issue but not being able to tune it myself was a hassle. Seth is inline for a harness but his 690 is apart

I'm trying to convince him to ride the MX1K with me next may
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:11 AM   #5953
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How does the MX1000 navigate???????????? maybe a 690 test team:
I do plan on doing KOTW again but on the berg as the course is sussposed to be very tight this year and the milages per day about 1/2 of the last one.Just cant do 500 miles in a day on the 5fiddy
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:50 PM   #5954
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It's not the pump anyway. My Berg has the same pump and it runs great, every time without fail. The Vortex solved my running issue but not being able to tune it myself was a hassle. Seth is inline for a harness but his 690 is apart

I'm trying to convince him to ride the MX1K with me next may
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Come on ... Your 50 lbs heavier then him. A "slap" behind his head should help him forget he's not a hard core enduro rider and join your ride blindingly ... If it does not work with your hand, try with the hockey stick ...

Seriously ??? Bob has no pump problems after all ???

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Old 10-13-2012, 02:55 PM   #5955
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I did have two pump problems but only one of them was actually the pump. i have many more problems that were fuel delivery/ecu problems that can not be sorted and definitively fixed. I truly believe most of the problems are not in the hard parts of pump, filter, injector or regulator. I think it is how they are hooked together and the whole fly by wire thing is bullshit you dont need on a dirt bike..

Yes it has significantly limited my millage , having these problems, but when this bike works it works very well for what I like to do and i dont see anything else on the market that will work as well. including building something . believe me i have thought about it a lot.
I would go carb but I dont know how to get the correct cdi box or trigger. I seems to me that a more robust and less sensitive ecu can be made to work easier. basically the hardest part is tuning it on a dyno with someone that knows how to set up spray amounts

If this dont work I know where you can pick up a 690 that is well used but maintained for cheap and Ill be on a xr 600 with a button.
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