ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Fluff > Sports
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 10-12-2012, 10:12 AM   #481
Mercury264
Once you go Triple...
 
Mercury264's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Masshole
Oddometer: 21,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuffler View Post
see for yourself ... 66 tests administered by USADA to George

http://www.usada.org/athlete-test-history

FWIW, Lance = 29 tests

Kristen Armstrong (the cyclist, not the ex) = 73
There ya go then - I'm sure there were many more also administered by the UCI - just goes to show that NOT failing a test does not mean someone didn't dope...
__________________
'12 Tiger 800XC
'07 TE510
'02 Sprint ST
'99 XR650L
'99 Speed Triple
Mercury264 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 12:44 PM   #482
Shuffler
Getting a grip...
 
Shuffler's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Location: Niwot CO
Oddometer: 1,665
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercury264 View Post
There ya go then - I'm sure there were many more also administered by the UCI - just goes to show that NOT failing a test does not mean someone didn't dope...
Yep, the same UCI that was bought off by Lance and Co. The same UCI willing to turn a blind eye to what was really going on not just among Motorola/USPS/Discovery/Radio Shack, but other teams as well. The UCI couldn't stand a black eye & ruining the international popularity (i.e. money) that Lance and Co. brought to cycling, and the Tour in particular.

Pat McQuaid is a joke. The UCI needs to be gutted ... time to hit the 'reset' button.
__________________
________________________________
AMA | COHVCO | TPA | NCTR | BRC
Niwot Synthetics
KTM 950A | KTM 300XCW | BMW R1100RT
Shuffler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 12:52 PM   #483
swimmer
armchair asshole
 
swimmer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: tucson
Oddometer: 4,266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Powershouse View Post
Interesting note about Kristen Armstrong. I noticed a lack of female names in the USADA Reasoned Judgement - does this imply that the distaff peleton is clean?
The USADA investigation was not an investigation into doping of cyclist just things related to LA and USPS so there would be no need look into any female athletes unless they were linked to LA or USPS.

I am sure the female peleton is cleaner just like I am sure less females go around tagging private property, stealing cars, etc....
swimmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 01:23 PM   #484
cogitate
Beastly Adventurer
 
cogitate's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: North of the Border, CA
Oddometer: 4,787
Quote:
Originally Posted by swimmer View Post
The USADA investigation was not an investigation into doping of cyclist just things related to LA and USPS so there would be no need look into any female athletes unless they were linked to LA or USPS.

I am sure the female peleton is cleaner just like I am sure less females go around tagging private property, stealing cars, etc....
I live in an area in SoCal with a lot of roadies. I ride everyday, and while i no longer race, i can hang for a bit with the fast crowd.

I was going up this hill and in front of me was a gal on a Bianchi, she was ripped, blood vessels popping out of her calves. She was not going all that fast, i passed her and said, "on your left".
I was pretty far from her
She chased me down the other side of the hill, caught up to me at the light, screaming at me, you just had to pass me, you think you are so fast, blah blah blah. She veers towards me and spits on me. Really.

The light turned green, she is in a track stand, taunting me to go. I just looked at her and shook my head.

Roid rage. I just dropped her as i past her, for her to come up at a light again and begin her tirade.

I have seen her since, she acts embarrassed.
__________________
bikeless.

My book "If You Look at Your Health in a New Way..." is available here
and as PDF here
available in Kindle format here
cogitate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 04:35 PM   #485
rdcyclist
Beastly Adventurer
 
rdcyclist's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Location: SanHo, NorCal
Oddometer: 1,052
Yes, Tammy got popped; shockingly: Steriods. So did Jeanson, EPO. Years and years ago, a local (NorCal) racer that was on the '84 Olympic team, Cindy Olivarri, got busted for 'roids. I knew her and it was obvious something was going on. She was interviewed a coupla years later in a national bike magazine and stated that besides the health problems she was suffering as a result of doping, the worst thing was not knowing if she would've been good enough without the juice. It was an edifying read. I wonder how she's doing now.

There are a number of current pro-females that are probably juicing but as I stated before, "Failing a drug test is the same as failing an IQ test." As long as the rider sticks to The Program, the likely hood of getting popped is pretty small.

I know a current female Olympic class road cyclist and we've spoken at length about doping in the peloton and who she suspects is on the juice. There are a number of riders that made a jump from regional class to international class in mere months that are suspect. Eventually, it's likely they'll get caught but in the meantime...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuffler View Post
I dunno .... not real big money in women's racing, so maybe less inclination to be 'on the program'.

Recall the name Geneviève Jeanson (Canada), who was absolutely crushing everybody else a few years back...I think she got popped for EPO.

Anybody recall track rider Tammy Thomas (below)? Pretty sure she was 'on something' too...

rdcyclist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2012, 09:01 PM   #486
swimmer
armchair asshole
 
swimmer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: tucson
Oddometer: 4,266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuffler View Post
I.

I think I used to work with that dude!
swimmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 05:32 AM   #487
Mercury264
Once you go Triple...
 
Mercury264's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Masshole
Oddometer: 21,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by swimmer View Post
I think I used to work with that dude!


The red fingernail polish is a nice feminine touch I think....
__________________
'12 Tiger 800XC
'07 TE510
'02 Sprint ST
'99 XR650L
'99 Speed Triple
Mercury264 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 08:03 AM   #488
swimmer
armchair asshole
 
swimmer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: tucson
Oddometer: 4,266
Another rider confesses to USPS doping without any prompting from USADA.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...al-team_261255


So, are there still any doubters that LA cheated and lied?
swimmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 08:37 AM   #489
cogitate
Beastly Adventurer
 
cogitate's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: North of the Border, CA
Oddometer: 4,787
Quote:
Originally Posted by swimmer View Post
Another rider confesses to USPS doping without any prompting from USADA.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...al-team_261255


So, are there still any doubters that LA cheated and lied?

Boy, you still don't get it, do you? He never tested positive



I really, really fear that this will not end well.
__________________
bikeless.

My book "If You Look at Your Health in a New Way..." is available here
and as PDF here
available in Kindle format here
cogitate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 08:43 AM   #490
rdcyclist
Beastly Adventurer
 
rdcyclist's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Location: SanHo, NorCal
Oddometer: 1,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by cogitate View Post
Boy, you still don't get it, do you? He never tested positive



I really, really fear that this will not end well.
If it ended right now, it's not ending well...
rdcyclist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 11:12 AM   #491
swimmer
armchair asshole
 
swimmer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: tucson
Oddometer: 4,266
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdcyclist View Post
If it ended right now, it's not ending well...
I actually thought it already ended.
swimmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 11:49 AM   #492
cogitate
Beastly Adventurer
 
cogitate's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: North of the Border, CA
Oddometer: 4,787
Quote:
Originally Posted by swimmer View Post
I actually thought it already ended.

I think it just got started.
__________________
bikeless.

My book "If You Look at Your Health in a New Way..." is available here
and as PDF here
available in Kindle format here
cogitate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 12:52 PM   #493
Mercury264
Once you go Triple...
 
Mercury264's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Masshole
Oddometer: 21,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by cogitate View Post
Boy, you still don't get it, do you? He never tested positive



I really, really fear that this will not end well.
Neither did George Hincapie and he admitted he doped his entire career up to about 6 years ago.

You still don't get it do you, never failing a test does not mean someone didn't dope, it just means they were a step ahead of the testers.
__________________
'12 Tiger 800XC
'07 TE510
'02 Sprint ST
'99 XR650L
'99 Speed Triple
Mercury264 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 01:39 PM   #494
PoundSand
Beastly Adventurer
 
PoundSand's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: socal
Oddometer: 5,943
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercury264 View Post
Neither did George Hincapie and he admitted he doped his entire career up to about 6 years ago.

You still don't get it do you, never failing a test does not mean someone didn't dope, it just means they were a step ahead of the testers.
Ummm, read his post again and see who doesn't get it. ;)
PoundSand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2012, 02:16 PM   #495
Mercury264
Once you go Triple...
 
Mercury264's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Masshole
Oddometer: 21,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by PoundSand View Post
Ummm, read his post again and see who doesn't get it. ;)
I guess I don't see his point then
__________________
'12 Tiger 800XC
'07 TE510
'02 Sprint ST
'99 XR650L
'99 Speed Triple
Mercury264 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 01:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014