The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

[bouldertag]

Originally Posted by markjenn

Different spouses will react differently to different approaches. My wife is fairly logical and just wants every assurance that I'm doing everything I can to be safe and that we have good insurance so that if the worst happens we are whole financially. That being said, after a recent shunt with minor injuries, I'm having to see if I can reduce the risk further and reassure her. If I can't, then I'll give the hobby up. She's much more important to me than bikes.

I don't think very many people realize how risky motorcycling is. Over a 50-yr career, if you run a 2% risk of a serious accident every year (which is a very low number and requires a huge commitment to gear, training, concentration, and being very careful), your chances of completing your career without one or more serious accidents is only one in three. Spouses need to be on board with this risk, not kept in the dark.

Financially, the solution is easier - for every dollar I spend on bikes she gets to spend the same amount on something that gives her indivdual satisfaction - she likes furniture. If $28K can't be swung, then you need to buy a $7K bike.

- Mark

Wow thanks Mark!

[Anticyclone]

Originally Posted by bouldertag

For those who are married to a non motorcycle luvn wife, how were you able to justify a 14k Tenere?
Give me the secret and I will be a tenere owner.

bd

5 years or 50,000 miles.

To get the Tenere I had to agree to keep it that long. Of course it came on the heels of a Triumph 1050 Tiger I had for about 8 months before I decided I missed having something that would go down a gravel road, so that may have had something to do with it.

I'm about 4 months in and 6000 miles in, so the mileage won't be a problem. We never stated if it was whichever comes first or last.

[bouldertag]

ok so in the US how does this sound. I am gong to offer 13.5 tax license etc. out the door complete.

If no go i will not go above 13.8. that is the highest i will go out the door.

unreasonable let me know.

bd

[twinrider]

Originally Posted by bouldertag

ok so in the US how does this sound. I am gong to offer 13.5 tax license etc. out the door complete.

If no go i will not go above 13.8. that is the highest i will go out the door.

unreasonable let me know.

bd

You're worried about a few hundred bucks but think a $28,000 S10 is a great solution for having to ask permission?

Originally Posted by Anticyclone

5 years or 50,000 miles.

To get the Tenere I had to agree to keep it that long. Of course it came on the heels of a Triumph 1050 Tiger I had for about 8 months before I decided I missed having something that would go down a gravel road, so that may have had something to do with it.

I'm about 4 months in and 6000 miles in, so the mileage won't be a problem. We never stated if it was whichever comes first or last.

A much better approach imo...

[bouldertag]

Originally Posted by twinrider

A $28,000 S10, no thanks...



A much better solution if one has to ask for permission.

Ya I played that game. Bought a 2011 KTM 450 exc without telling wife and didn't work out so well. Wife made me sale it in a week. Bought it for 9700 out the door and sold it for 7500. In half a month of ownership. If i didn't sale it divorce threat was there.

So I cant do that again. Blind buy.

Actually this is a more complicated question that hijacks this thread I realize. so lets shut it down.

When and if i get this tenere i will show you me doing a table top jump on it. I did it with my 640 adventure 410 pounds so i will try it with this if i get it...

ha yaaa baby...

boulder

[bouldertag]

Originally Posted by twinrider

You're worried about a few hundred bucks but think a $28,000 S10 is a great solution for having to ask permission?



A much better approach imo...

What 28k?? no way.

[twinrider]

Originally Posted by bouldertag

What 28k?? no way.

Originally Posted by markjenn

Financially, the solution is easier - for every dollar I spend on bikes she gets to spend the same amount on something that gives her indivdual satisfaction - she likes furniture. If $28K can't be swung, then you need to buy a $7K bike.

- Mark

Mark is clearly flusher than us....

[markjenn]

Originally Posted by twinrider

Mark is clearly flusher than us....

Perhaps, but if there is one thing I've learned in a 43-year-long motorcycling career is that there is little or no correlation between the amount you spend on a bike and the enjoyment you get out of it. The folks that ride 20-yo bikes that cost them $3K and they sell after five years for $2700 seem to have just as much fun as the folks buying the latest/greatest $20K sportbike or Harley every year.

Agree about the thread hijack, I'll shut up.

- Mark

[GrahamD]

Originally Posted by bouldertag

Anyways I am to the point of getting this Tenere but now my wife is freaking on me.
For those who are married to a non motorcycle luvn wife, how were you able to justify a 14k Tenere?
Give me the secret and I will be a tenere owner.

bd

When you can snatch money from palm of wifes hand, you will be ready for Tenere Grasshopper.

[platty]

Bikes and wife's - yes to alll the above ...... but

Simple answer ..... Trade the wife

My S10's stablemate (a XT660R) is called "Bitchmaker" for obvious reasons

[Wreckchecker]

Originally Posted by platty

Bikes and wife's - yes to alll the above ...... but

Simple answer ..... Trade the wife

My S10's stablemate (a XT660R) is called "Bitchmaker" for obvious reasons

Yup, divorce is VERRYY expensive...

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... because it's damn well worth it.
btdt




Seriously, the Tenere is great, but try keeping what you have or getting a much less expensive VStrom. IF you can get her to take a ride, buy beg, or borrow a set of intercoms. It's amazing how her attitude will change if she is not "alone" in the back.

[tomatocity]

Originally Posted by jub jub

Does anyone know if the fueling problem has been addressed for the 13s?

Fueling problem?

[Wreckchecker]

Originally Posted by markjenn

If abrupt lower-end throttle response is the issue, the clutch switch mod makes it worse, not better. The main reason most folks like the mod is that it makes the throttle "snappier" and eliminates the slight bog the stock bike has off idle as you clutch away from a start.

- Mark

Disagree.
There's a difference between faster throttle response you address and which is provided by the clutch mod, versus the off-idle stumble that the original question asked about. The switch mod took away the stumble on mine.

Tomatocity, to get through EPA certification, the stumble is a lean spot just off idle that is worse in some bikes than others.

[tomatocity]

Originally Posted by Wreckchecker

Disagree.
There's a difference between faster throttle response you address and which is provided by the clutch mod, versus the off-idle stumble that the original question asked about. The switch mod took away the stumble on mine.

Tomatocity, to get through EPA certification, the stumble is a lean spot just off idle that is worse in some bikes than others.

I never considered the lean spot off idle a problem though a factory mapping problem. Someone found the way around that with the clutch switch bypass or flashing the ECU.

Now I would be happier if they changed the limited throttle response in 1, 2, 3 to 100% without having to flash the ECU.

Yamaha should be concerned with the new 500 pound 1190 chain'r arriving in February.

[markjenn]

Originally Posted by Wreckchecker

Disagree.
There's a difference between faster throttle response you address and which is provided by the clutch mod, versus the off-idle stumble that the original question asked about. The switch mod took away the stumble on mine.

The OP said he though the low-end response of the engine was too abrupt and someone chimed in that the mod would address this. I stand by my assessment that the mod makes the low-end throttle response more abrupt, not less. And fixes the stumble.

- Mark