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Old 10-19-2012, 08:29 AM   #1171
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http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto/...TELPRDB5385092


three different states.... can I stop now?
Sure you can stop. Thanks for the links. None of those three links are national parks though and at least two of them said the restrictions would be temporary. I was under the impression from what you wrote that these would be permanent restrictions in our national parks. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:33 AM   #1172
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Sure you can stop. Thanks for the links. None of those three links are national parks though and at least two of them said the restrictions would be temporary. I was under the impression from what you wrote that these would be permanent restrictions in our national parks. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
Yellowstone has had temporary tent restrictions in some of the parks for a few years now. But nothing permanant in any that I know of
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:04 PM   #1173
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Sure you can stop. Thanks for the links. None of those three links are national parks though and at least two of them said the restrictions would be temporary. I was under the impression from what you wrote that these would be permanent restrictions in our national parks. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
it is coming... the reason we went with an all Aluminum shell camper. As I said to begin with however no camper I have ever seen will stop a bear that wants in... a bear will go where it wants until they build trailers out of some real steel.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:18 PM   #1174
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I recall some years ago reading about the bears in Yosemite targeting certain toyotas because they had figured out a way to easily break into them.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:54 PM   #1175
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Don't know if an aluminum camper will do it. I have seen what a dermined bear can do.

The USFS/NPS brought in a 'trouble' bear from Yosemite to Northern California. Let it loose in the Trinity alps.

A couple nights later he ripped the rear end off of an aluminum camper... the full size ones.
Frankly it l ooked like a bomb had been put in side and detonated. Then he broke into a VW bus,
tore the windows out, then exited via the door (note: he didn't bother to unlock it.)
Same thing, looked like a hand grenade was in there.

The next night he ripped open a tent with people in it... they had moved the food inside
where they thought it would be.... 'safe'. The campers (fortunately) ran out of the tent as
the bear was tearing it's way in through the walls.

Interesting thing, I slept right through all the commotion. Was going backpacking,
looked at the damage... and decided to go in anyway. Started out by following the bear tracks up the trail.

A few minutes later, a helicopter showes up with a guy in the door.... and a few minutes later... bang.

Crazy thing how confident I was in my 20's.
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Old 10-20-2012, 05:28 AM   #1176
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:05 AM   #1177
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usable floor space. In a side slide you still have access to everything. In this trailer, if I don't slide the "master bed" out, I can't set up the table or couch. It's really a poor design, and I failed to think it through when looking at it. lesson learned think foul weather when considering a floorplan.
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:02 AM   #1178
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love this thread

looking at small rigs to haul with the '08 Corolla

Coleman Colorado



Viking Little Gasser






and an older Jayco





all local forunder $800 ...decisions decisions
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:28 PM   #1179
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The awning on the Coleman would sell me.
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:19 PM   #1180
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I'd probably go the Jayco. Single beds suck, either you got to climb over somebody to pee, or they have to climb over you.
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:15 PM   #1181
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the jayco and viking are cool.. I like the ice box and the stove...but also like the simplicity of the Coleman


found this colorado on another site...with a few mods...now this set up would be too heavy for the car.

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Old 10-21-2012, 09:31 AM   #1182
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:49 AM   #1183
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WOW HueyChief...that's quite a set-up you've got there! ^^^

Ready for fun, action, and ADVenture, at the drop of a hat!!
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:20 AM   #1184
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the jayco and viking are cool.. I like the ice box and the stove...but also like the simplicity of the Coleman


found this colorado on another site...with a few mods...now this set up would be too heavy for the car.

I like that, light and easy to tow.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:46 PM   #1185
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popups haven't changed much in 100 years
earliest campers were a wagon with a tent over it
beds on each side
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