Lance Armstrong

[Mercury264]

Originally Posted by swimmer

And also not true...

[cogitate]

Lance made a critical mistake. He really thought he could get away with it.

In retrospect, he did not have any results short of a stage win prior to his cancer. He was probably doped for that win as well.

He should never have doped, and with his post cancer strength to weight ratio, would have probably got top ten in the Tour. He could have been still looked at as a demi god, I mean, no cancer survivor comes back to even race the Tour.

Then, to get his aggression out, he could have started a dog fight ring, consisting of only lap dogs, like poodles, yorkies, etc. they would wear yellow rubber collars that said "dog strong". He would have made a lot of money, the French like underdogs and they would pay to see little poodles try to rip the yellow collars off the other little poodles.

When busted, he would not have lost any endorsements or any results, I mean, what he did was not in his sport. He would have been lauded for sticking up for the little dogs, and more popular than ever.

[rbrsddn]

Originally Posted by Mercury264

Yup. Other riders have doped and rightly deserve our contempt but Armstrong was just a bullying doping cunt who even now, can't admit to what he's done.

I wanted to believe he was clean for years, but had doubts. Now the countdown has started for real to the day he comes clean, and admits he doped...

[Southest US Thumper]

Originally Posted by Gummee!

My thoughts run in this direction:

He either didn't dope and won (no positives, remember?)

or

He DID do it and did it better and beat em at their own game

Hmmmm, did you get a preview of the Report????

The whole thing is pretty disappointing, I remember back in late '80s or early '90s reading about him when he was the Texas Jr. Champ and the name stuck so I kept an eye out for it. Zip ahead to '04 Tour and I'm in Iraq and explaining to my team how the Stage Races work and how important team work is etc. they're all hooked because it gives us a glimmer of pride and glory from a pretty lousy place. I'm not planning on contacting them to ask if they're tracking all this, I'd rather they keep the memories of us cheering for him in the Chow Hall after a hot and shitty day outside the wire....

[Wildman]

Originally Posted by wedgeman

... The fact is that none of his samples ever showed positive. Ever...

[swimmer]

Originally Posted by cogitate

Lance made a critical mistake. He really thought he could get away with it.

In retrospect, he did not have any results short of a stage win prior to his cancer. He was probably doped for that win as well.

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He was actually a world champion prior to cancer.

[Wildman]

Originally Posted by swimmer

He was actually a world champion prior to cancer.

Not any more.

[cogitate]

Originally Posted by swimmer

He was actually a world champion prior to cancer.

True, I was referring to the Tour.


Ya really think he won the worlds clean?

[cogitate]

Originally Posted by Wildman

Not any more.

I guess he loses that, too.

[Wildman]

Originally Posted by cogitate

I guess he loses that, too.

[chasssmash]

Originally Posted by Flaco

I'm surprised that we're not talking about how these fuckers were JUNKIES! The only difference is that the dragon they were chasing was victory. They lived like criminals, they were routinely breaking the law, cheating worthless scum.

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Lol

Chasbo

[swimmer]

As expected.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...ctories_262306

[Dukeryder]

[squish]

Bah. Like some one else said the whole sport at this level is doping and they have been doping for years.
Long before lance even strapped on his first pair of cleats.

I wish the asshat would have come clean since some of the work he did with and for cancer awareness was really good stuff. And his foundation has become something.

Oh well.

[2whl-hoop]

Originally Posted by Wildman

Not any more.

Originally Posted by cogitate

I guess he loses that, too.

Originally Posted by Wildman

From Joe Lindsey's Boulder Report:

"He is left, still, with a list of results that would make him a talented racer by any stretch: two stages of the Tour de France (1993, 1995); the 1995 San Sebastian Classic and Tour du Pont; 1996 Fleche Wallonne; and his standout result, the 1993 world championship."