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Old 10-25-2012, 07:01 AM   #17566
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the only Monster I rode felt like a riding mower compared to my Bandit
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:07 AM   #17567
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the only Monster I rode felt like a riding mower compared to my Bandit
You mean like this riding lawnmower?

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Old 10-25-2012, 08:08 AM   #17568
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You mean like this riding lawnmower?

No, it was the 620 Dark or something like that, so it was more like a child's toy riding mower.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:34 AM   #17569
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the only Monster I rode felt like a riding mower compared to my Bandit
pot, kettle.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:12 AM   #17570
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pot, kettle.
I don't get it
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:18 AM   #17571
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During flight training, I learned the mantra I'M SAFE, to be repeated before every engine start:
I Illness
M Medication
S Stress
A Alcohol
F Fatigue
E Emotion
Any yes answers? Scrub the flight.
Jeez, I would have never gotten off the ground.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:26 AM   #17572
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Have you ever driven a motorcycle with an engine that is: long-stroke, large-displacement, 45 degree V-twin, and with a shared piston throw on the crank? That's what it looks like he's operating, tons of low-end torque. Typically their second gear is good from about 8mph up to 48mph and will merrily yank you from one to the other pretty darn quick.

Their throttle is an on/off switch for jumping forward or backwards 20' (7 meters) almost instantly at almost any speed (except for at top-rpm or the very bottom portion of the rpm, which you don't use on that type of engine).

Long-stroke always means a very wide and flat torque curve and also means a lower top rpm. Only a short stroke engine can hit high rpms, but they have almost no low-end torque. Did you know that a big cruise ship engine typically operates around 10 or 15 RPM and has less than 60 rpm at full speed? It's actually much more about piston speed, typically measured in feet-per-second, long stroke travels farther per RPM. Like a long crowbar vs. a short crowbar.

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Your technical jargon confused me a little bit, but is that why they're so fucking slow?
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:39 AM   #17573
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And why do they sound like "potato potato potato" ?

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Old 10-25-2012, 09:43 AM   #17574
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And why do they sound like "potato potato potato" ?

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That's the single crank layout talking.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:58 AM   #17575
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Have you ever driven a motorcycle with an engine that is: long-stroke, large-displacement, 45 degree V-twin, and with a shared piston throw on the crank? That's what it looks like he's operating, tons of low-end torque. Typically their second gear is good from about 8mph up to 48mph and will merrily yank you from one to the other pretty darn quick.

Their throttle is an on/off switch for jumping forward or backwards 20' (7 meters) almost instantly at almost any speed (except for at top-rpm or the very bottom portion of the rpm, which you don't use on that type of engine).

Long-stroke always means a very wide and flat torque curve and also means a lower top rpm. Only a short stroke engine can hit high rpms, but they have almost no low-end torque. Did you know that a big cruise ship engine typically operates around 10 or 15 RPM and has less than 60 rpm at full speed? It's actually much more about piston speed, typically measured in feet-per-second, long stroke travels farther per RPM. Like a long crowbar vs. a short crowbar.

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8mph to 48 mph in second gear? The faster sports bike's today will probably do 100mph in first gear.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:08 AM   #17576
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That's the single crank layout talking.
It is the remnants of a radial engine with only two cylinders remaining.

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Old 10-25-2012, 11:51 AM   #17577
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No it is a single pin crank with knife and fork con rods.
Now make a version of that with a Harley firing order...
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:36 PM   #17578
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You're kidding, right? I can pack my tent in probably 5 minutes. Why the hell would I ever want that monstrosity flapping in the breeze behind me?
Dunno, why would you.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:08 PM   #17579
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Have you ever driven a motorcycle with an engine that is: long-stroke, large-displacement, 45 degree V-twin, and with a shared piston throw on the crank? That's what it looks like he's operating, tons of low-end torque. Typically their second gear is good from about 8mph up to 48mph and will merrily yank you from one to the other pretty darn quick.

Their throttle is an on/off switch for jumping forward or backwards 20' (7 meters) almost instantly at almost any speed (except for at top-rpm or the very bottom portion of the rpm, which you don't use on that type of engine).

Long-stroke always means a very wide and flat torque curve and also means a lower top rpm. Only a short stroke engine can hit high rpms, but they have almost no low-end torque. Did you know that a big cruise ship engine typically operates around 10 or 15 RPM and has less than 60 rpm at full speed? It's actually much more about piston speed, typically measured in feet-per-second, long stroke travels farther per RPM. Like a long crowbar vs. a short crowbar.

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Nope, you got me there. I only have a HD forty eight, without highway pegs. As a male I wouldnt like to sit in a gyno position and I'm planning on some midpegs next summer. Also I do like to keep control while cornering, that means quick access to the gearshifter and rear brake. As for the cruise ship analogy, we're talking about motorcycles not container ships.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:26 PM   #17580
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Now make a version of that with a Harley firing order...

Bet he don't know it or get the pun. Along with most "motorcycle" guys.
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