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Old 10-29-2012, 05:46 AM   #6136
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I heard that the 14 models were completely ride by wire. You sit on a couch and use an Xbox controller to ride the bike.
Awesome. I won't need to replace the seat.
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:48 AM   #6137
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I have heard that the ride-by-wire system is coming to the 690 Enduro models in 2013, can anybody confirm or deny that?

Here is some more info for those that have no idea what I'm talking about:
Ride-by-wire will be the standard for all bikes in the next few years.
Good? Bad? I don't know.
Anyway I think that a true rbw could be better than the hybrid solution currently installed on the 690 enduro.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:44 AM   #6138
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Ride-by-wire will be the standard for all bikes in the next few years.
Good? Bad? I don't know.
Anyway I think that a true rbw could be better than the hybrid solution currently installed on the 690 enduro.
Better how? With the current solution you are relying on the (easy to fix) mechanical cables, if the electric motor fails it will simply not override the butterfly in some situations any more but will still run fine.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:35 AM   #6139
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Going back to the shims discussion, I rode up to the nearest Harley Dealership (which was less than a mile, these things are popping up like corner stores) to pick up some shims for an intake rocker replacement.

This was the parking lot. You can just BARELY see my bike hiding behind that 4runner.



Yup, I was the only bike there...
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:44 AM   #6140
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:02 AM   #6141
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Better how? With the current solution you are relying on the (easy to fix) mechanical cables, if the electric motor fails it will simply not override the butterfly in some situations any more but will still run fine.
But, like many automotive systems, it may be possible to design a reasonable MC limp-back mode for situations such as failure of the throttle position sending unit.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:07 AM   #6142
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Better how? With the current solution you are relying on the (easy to fix) mechanical cables, if the electric motor fails it will simply not override the butterfly in some situations any more but will still run fine.
Same old new vs old technology arguments. You know, points and condenser vs electronic ignition, carbs vs EFI etc, etc. New tech always wins out and after a while none really remembers how much better the old tech was.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:07 AM   #6143
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Going back to the shims discussion, I rode up to the nearest Harley Dealership (which was less than a mile, these things are popping up like corner stores) to pick up some shims for an intake rocker replacement.

This was the parking lot. You can just BARELY see my bike hiding behind that 4runner.



Yup, I was the only bike there...

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Old 10-29-2012, 10:52 AM   #6144
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Same old new vs old technology arguments. You know, points and condenser vs electronic ignition, carbs vs EFI etc, etc. New tech always wins out and after a while none really remembers how much better the old tech was.
Well, IMO we still have a long way to go before we reach the "after a while" point as far as reliability of fuel injection and fancier electronic gizmos on dirt bikes go... KTM doesn't still run carbs on their x00,000 $$$ factory rally bikes because they handle elevation and temperature changes so well...

But I sure was impressed that the Bergs start and run perfectly from 0 - >20,000 ft without having to touch anything! It's the future for sure.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:16 PM   #6145
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It's getting a little moist..

I hope you guys on the east coast are staying safe and somewhat dry...
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:26 PM   #6146
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I hope you guys on the east coast are staying safe and somewhat dry...



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Old 10-29-2012, 02:30 PM   #6147
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:40 PM   #6148
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:12 PM   #6149
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... the Bergs start and run perfectly from 0 - >20,000 ft without having to touch anything! It's the future for sure.
That looks like the future is here already. What the heck is taking KTM so long? Oh, I forgot only paid $12,000 for my 690. I am unworthy of the better system. .

On another note: The current Dakar 450 KTM are fuel inj.?
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:40 PM   #6150
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That looks like the future is here already. What the heck is taking KTM so long? Oh, I forgot only paid $12,000 for my 690. I am unworthy of the better system. .

On another note: The current Dakar 450 KTM are fuel inj.?
Nope, 450 Rally is still using the good old 41mm Keihin FCR-MX pumper carb.
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