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10-22-2012, 01:26 PM
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My gas regulator has psi on the outflow side, and I need cfh. The welding shop has replacement cfh gauges for only $12. Can I unscrew the psi gauge and screw in the cfh? Or do I need a whole new regulator? The guy at the shop wasn't sure.
Thanks... edit...pic of my regulator and the replacement cfh gauge...
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10-23-2012, 07:18 AM
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Bump...
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10-23-2012, 07:38 AM
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If you want to add a flow meter to that regulator it is has to be a separate gauge you install on the output between the regulator and the hose. That extra gauge shown in the photo would need to be attached to some sort of flow restrictor and be measuring the pressure drop across it. Flow gauges I am familiar with usually have a tapered transparent vertical tube with a ball in it. The more gas flowing through it the higher the flow of gas pushes up the ball.
Pressure and flow are different measurements like voltage and current. Pressure is how hard the gas is pushing against the inner surface of the hose, and flow is how much volume is flowing through the hose.
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10-23-2012, 07:42 AM
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I know those things...still, every welding company sells a regulator that has a flow gauge on the output side, instead of a pressure gauge. I know how those flow gauges work...they are actually pressure regulators that estimate flow by measuring pressure on two sides of a calibrated orifice. It's a flow *estimate* and it's good enough for home garage MIG welding.
My question is whether I can install this flow-estimating gauge on my existing regulator.
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10-23-2012, 07:44 AM
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Your regulator is a Nitrogen regulator. I don't think the cfh gauge will work. flow is measured at a certain pressure.
I still would weld and keep turning it down until you get porosity then up a little. David
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10-23-2012, 08:29 AM
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According to a couple regulator makers' websites, nitrogen and argon use the same regulator. This one is the Nitrogen Series(TM) inert gas model. Oddly, they make a Nitrogen Series regulator for O2 and other gases.
I'm going to install this gauge and try it out.
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10-23-2012, 08:35 AM
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10-25-2012, 08:08 PM
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Use 5356.
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10-25-2012, 08:09 PM
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Nice job!
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10-26-2012, 09:39 PM
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11-01-2012, 12:54 AM
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This thread is simply AWESOME.....thank you all you have knowledge in this area and willing to share it with those unfamiliar such as myself.
Yet another reason why ADV rider forum kicks A$$!!
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11-02-2012, 01:56 PM
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![]() Note that it's marked with an orifice size, in this case .032 of an inch. I did some reading after I opened the box and found a dual-gauge regulator rather than the expected floating-ball type of flow meter. Seems that the orifice size is paired with gas type to give a certain flow at a given pressure. Where's the orifice? With this regulator it appears to be in the outlet fitting, but your's might be different. David R's advice sounds pretty good to me - fiddle with it until you get decent welds and call it a day. But again, take what I'm saying with a grain of salt 'cause I don't even rate as a n00b at this point.
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11-02-2012, 02:24 PM
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Lexleroy, Everyday you own a new tig welder and do not use it is a sin.
I like your regulator. It must be made by a company that sells gas. I use 15 cfh for mig or tig and usually its plenty. There are times I use more like with Aluminum tig. Other times I Can use less especially with a 3/8 (#6) gas cup mig or tig. This does not make me right. My Harris Flow regulator with a ball and glass says its calibrated for a .050" orifice. No need to ever change it or even see it. As long as you get the proper amount of shielding. My first Mig was a Lincoln SP100 in about 1985. It came with a fixed 35 cfh regulator. I burned through an 80 cf bottle in the first day. I exchanged the regulator for an adjustable one when I got the tank filled. I still have that regulator. Enjoy your machine. I want to see pictures of your welds. David
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Here's the daughter's bike so far - brass fillet brazing for some of the lugs and then silver brazing the lugs to the tubes. The thing behind the bike is the frame fixture that I built to hold all of the pieces together for pinning and brazing. ![]() And here's two of the home-made fillet brazed lugs, shown with a production investment cast lug, prior to being silver brazed into the bike. ![]() Brazing with oxy-fuel is fun but I'm pretty stoked about learning TIG... looking forward to lots more conversations in this thread.
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11-05-2012, 07:14 AM
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