Sanjohsaki the Build

[dentvet]

Originally Posted by sanjoh

The SE is very planted off road, on road it is a bit sluggish turning but it will turn with the proper inputs. The ninja turns great on road, but off road is a bit more skittish. I think it has to do with the wheelbase and the weight distribution, with the ninja, the weight is rearward oriented. I think extending the ninja swingarm 3" or so would make a huge difference off road and I'm willing to live with the on road handling changes.

KTM 950SE Ninja 650r
Wheelbase:1,570 mm (61.8 inches) 1,410 mm (55.5 in)

I think the wheelbase on mine is 58 or 59 with the ktm forks.

Did the longride seat fit on your teckno?

[sanjoh]

Originally Posted by dentvet

Did the longride seat fit on your teckno?

It will with a bit of customizing!

[Rich667]

Nice bike! I have looked at a couple of these 650s now and it seems they make great adventure bikes... I have been looking for a bigger bike andI have been messing with the idea of building something similar. how is the gear spread? I know my ex500 motor had a low enough first gear combined with the bottom end torque you could really lug it down.

[sanjoh]

Originally Posted by Rich667

Nice bike! I have looked at a couple of these 650s now and it seems they make great adventure bikes... I have been looking for a bigger bike andI have been messing with the idea of building something similar. how is the gear spread? I know my ex500 motor had a low enough first gear combined with the bottom end torque you could really lug it down.

I've changed the rear sprocket to a 52t, front is stock 14t. Nice low end, plenty of torque to bring the front up in slow speed off road conditions. Highway speeds are no problem for hours on end.

[yokesman]

What it the mileage and tank range with that gearing?

[sanjoh]

Loaded with 3 givi hardcases, running around 75mph it will get 51mpg, range with combined holigan right hand is around 180 miles.

[BeemerWolf]

Originally Posted by sanjoh

Loaded with 3 givi hardcases, running around 75mph it will get 51mpg, range with combined holigan right hand is around 180 miles.

damn John....aren't you a bit old to be telling these young guys about "our hooligan tendencies"?

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[sanjoh]

Originally Posted by BeemerWolf

damn John....aren't you a bit old to be telling these young guys about "our hooligan tendencies"?

I just blame it on the parkinson's

[BeemerWolf]

Originally Posted by sanjoh

I just blame it on the parkinson's

I will have to try that next time I get pulled over
itz gotta' work better than my last excuse to the DPS out here in Arizona

yes, he pulled me over then said he thought he saw some light btwn the road surface and my DRZ front wheel (imagine that)
I said I did not recall what the bike did, cuz I had just been bitten by a bee that had worked his way inside my helmet.
........no, really, I did get bit by a bee or something, even though it was a few minutes before the said incident
I even showed him the bite mark.

wrote me a warning and said "ride safe oldtimer"

of course, now I had to behave for 6 months until that warning dropped off of my record. But it was better than a ticket

....damn "E" motor, always causing trouble!

[yokesman]

whos young 62 this year and just beginning ,again this time some dirt.

[4play]

I just bought Denvet's Thinja, it's still in VA & I'm dreamwheeling here in AZ. I was wondering about the lack of a chain guide on the swingarm ahead of the rear sprocket for offroad? No matter where you ride here we get into rocks occaisionally.

[Salsa]

A bent chain guide makes an excellent derailer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don

[sanjoh]

Originally Posted by 4play

I just bought Denvet's Thinja, it's still in VA & I'm dreamwheeling here in AZ. I was wondering about the lack of a chain guide on the swingarm ahead of the rear sprocket for offroad? No matter where you ride here we get into rocks occaisionally.

Congrats on the purchase, great bike. I seriously considered a chain guide, especially when I went up to a 52t ironman. Hasn't been an issue, been through a few rocks

[4play]

Originally Posted by Salsa

A bent chain guide makes an excellent derailer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don

The plastic aftermarket one on my KTM gets gouged accasionally. The way I look at it, if it hits something, chances are the sprocket or chain would've taken the hit instead?

[Salsa]

I usually build chain guides as tensioner/guides up close to the swing arm pivot and make them pivot at the attach point. Not too vulnerable.

Don