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Old 07-03-2012, 06:28 PM   #136
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Helmet Porn: Couldn't resist, the new Neotec with the new Sena SMH10 headset, made for each other. Screw Schuberth.


I've got both helmets. While the Sena fits better on the Neotec, unfortunately music sounds much better in the C3. I think the Neotec's plastic lined ear cups are killing the bass.
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Old 09-08-2012, 06:36 PM   #137
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lhendrik,

Curious to how you hooked up the iphone and sumo to the sena? I have the new neotec (i love this helmet) and a iphone and zumo665. I paired the phone to the zumo, but would really like to listen to pandora without repairing to the iphone directly.

On another note - how do riders control the iPhone with gloves on? any options?

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PS: Had the Schuberth for 3 hours - got headache - returned. Dealer took back and resold used.
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:21 PM   #138
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lhendrik,

Curious to how you hooked up the iphone and sumo to the sena? I have the new neotec (i love this helmet) and a iphone and zumo665. I paired the phone to the zumo, but would really like to listen to pandora without repairing to the iphone directly.

On another note - how do riders control the iPhone with gloves on? any options?

thanks.

PS: Had the Schuberth for 3 hours - got headache - returned. Dealer took back and resold used.
I did nothing special to pair.

I have a Zumo 660 and an iPhone 4. I paired the Sena to the iPhone. It plays iPod music to the headset in stereo. It receives calls. I then paired the Sena to the Zumo. It relays GPS guidance and also MP3's from my SD memory card. It all seems to work fine. I didn't do anything special to make it work. When riding in the US I may hard wire a radar detector to the Sena....I do not use the intercom feature, as I have no riding friends :(

To control the iPhone I have used a Scosche remote control that has large buttons, but these days I don't like to mess with all that while riding as I have a tendency to crash when distracted.
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:24 PM   #139
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Any special things I need to know to install and use the pin lock visor insert that came with the Neotec. I have never used one, and I will soon be riding in the European rainy season (January thru December:) and want to avoid killing myself on an Alpine pass when my shield fogs up.
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:14 PM   #140
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I just bought a Neotec to replace my aging C2. Figured I get a C3, but apparently they changed the shape of the shell, because it didn't fit my head.

Anyway, the Neotec fits great. I had a ride to the dealer (175 miles each way) yesterday, and figured from the forecast I'd be riding in some bad storms, so Thursday night I installed the pinlock visor. No experience with them. Just follow the instructions. Pretty easy. And the best part, it worked great. I rode in regular rain the first 30 miles in the morning - no fog up, with the visor tightly closed. Then just after I left the dealer a little after 4:30pm, I rode through the worst stuff I've ever ridden through. I've ridden through many bad storms, including hail, but always punched through it in about 10 or 15 minutes. I was in this crap for an hour. About half the cars pulled off the interstate, and at times I was down to first gear just trying to continue making forward progress to punch through the front. The pinlock shield worked great. No fog up, no leaks with the helmet. The directions say not to ride at night with it, because light transmittance is only 80%, but it was near dark by the time I got home, and visibility was no problem.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:28 PM   #141
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hi all, my small contribution

writing to you from across the atlantic. in lisbon, portugal, noticed this is the longest thread of any forum regarding schuberth vs neotec and comms also

I do have a kawasaki versys and just bought a neotec. So this is my story here;

Used a givi x-08 (aka givi x-modular) for the last two years, size L59. Although a very comfortable helmet, at highway speeds (yes people do pull the throttle here just like any latin country lol) it was becoming unbearably noisy.
So went for all the hype regarding the schuberth c3 and bought one. Tried it on the shop and apparently all was ok but...
Next day started a twin trip down south and it was totally off on this. Not only was unable to wear it for more than 20 minutes it was unfitted too, very noisy and in total ear pain, although again as stated in the shop seemed ok. So had to go back home and swapped for the givi again for the weekend.!

Next monday at the shop the dealer was kind enough (the helmet was already slightly used for the short trip) to option me into swapping for another. Thing here is schuberth does not have 3 shell sizes, available are in fact small and extra large shell sizes. Thatīs why thereīs a jump in sizes from L58-59 to XL60-61. Concluded I am a pure L59-60. Meaning no way any schuberth (all models are like this) will ever fit me both snug and comfortably.

Went for the neotec (2th shell size L59) and itīs perfect! both comfortable and the perfect fit. Silence enough although the top vent either closed or open does tend to create top head noise and this one already comes with the corrected top vent piece (yes they produced one recently) which on the very first edition did not close completely when needed. Also why the hell would I want the faceshield (on the c3) to drop down at over 40kmh ?? for security reasons ? go figure
Funny enough if the top vent is opened and the face shield is up thereīs close to no noise coming in have you guys noticed this ?
If on a longer than city commuting trip what I do is cut a very small piece of foam cigarette size and insert it on the (either closed or open) top vent - voi la noise gone! (and also the amazing ventilation of course!)

Now Iīm looking into a single or twin comms system. Iīd like it to have fm radio (a must). Unfortunately sena does not so Iīm tending for either the cardo g9, midland bt next or interphone f5.

my pickies:
cardo g9 - still havenīt understand if the fm radio reception is improved over the g4. Again seems the right ear cord acts as fm aerial so placement must be the key here

midland bt next - webbikeworld seems to regard this one as a favorite but a lot of people are unhappy with it (go figure). Flimsy local support at best

interphone f5 - build and package quality seems hit or miss. No local support whatsoever

Do you guys have updates on these models ?

Has anyone tried pairing a sena with a separate fm radio ? if so which one would work?
or connect one on the aux jack ? whatīs your picks and suggestions on this ?

best rgds from portugal

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Old 11-06-2012, 01:26 AM   #142
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Well, I'm another NEO convert, love the helmet, having put on about 15,000 miles on it so far and after having suffered with the C3, which unfortunately couldn't do a damn thing right for me.

A problem I've found and I which I suspect might be due to the fact that the NEO shield opens from the side rather than the center is that the Pinlock has started "leaking". By this I mean because of the torque on the shield when opening/closing from the LHS with the use of the little tab the seal on the Pinlock is being compromised thus in wet/cold conditions you get some fogging occurring b/w the shield and the Pinlock. This of course is quite annoying and dangerous since the only way to wipe the fog away is by removing the Pinlock.

Having in the past (a few years ago) used a FogCity insert and it working flawlessly I have recently purchased one again. Unfortunately it looks like FogCity went on the cheap and instead of a solid insert they now sell some crappy piece of really thin film which plain does not work, at least not how the original used to. This think film, whilst not directly fogging up gets really blurry and quite distracting.

So I'm hoping to hear some WOTL on what others have done with regards to Pinlock or FogCity or whatever other solution to help keep the fogging problem at bay.
Since the Pinlock works ok when it works I have thought of maybe using some silicone, think double-sided tape or glue to make the Pinlock stay sealed based on the principle the FogCity insert uses. Has anyone tried this and if yes, what were your results?
Any other ideas/suggestions?
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:15 AM   #143
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I'm dealing with the fogging by leaving the Neo's visor cracked open a little, but I might try Meguiar's Plastx, good rep in this thread.

http://www.triumphrat.net/maintenanc...em-solved.html
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:30 PM   #144
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I'm dealing with the fogging by leaving the Neo's visor cracked open a little, but I might try Meguiar's Plastx, good rep in this thread.

http://www.triumphrat.net/maintenanc...em-solved.html
Thanks TR, read through the various comments about PastX and have ordered some to give it a shot, should be pretty handy for lots of other bike cleaning needs too.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:48 AM   #145
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I went to my local dealer yesterday to buy a C3, and came home with a Neotec. It was more comfortable, and I was impressed with the venting system. Next spring, I'll check to see whether there is any top vent air leakage in the closed position.

One day last winter, I left the vent plugs for my ski helmet at home, and that was a memorable experience.

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:44 PM   #146
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A riding aquantance of mine rode from Michigan to Florida Keys to Alaska. He wore a Neotech the entire trip. He said
he encountered almost all the weather you can experience, except ice, he said the Neotech worked flawless the entire
trip. His recommendation was the strongest recommendation I could have heard. Bought two one for me and the wife unit.

A couple of days ago I had the opportunity to test the Neotech. I was on a PGR mission and left my home at 5:45 am. 34 degrees F, dark, foggy. I had inserted the anti-fog pinlock the night before. I had experienced fogging the day before and it was annoying to have to open the shield to clear the fogging. I tried all combinations of venting using the chin vent, the top of head vents to get rid of the fog, nothing worked. Wow what a positive difference the pinlock made. Virtually no fogging. I did get a little fogging in the far right side of the shield, but it did not interfere with my vision. My head stayed warm and dry the entire day. The fit is great. Is the helmet a premium price? Yes. My head is also a premium head, in my opinion
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:07 PM   #147
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I have been wearing a Neotech now for about two months. I spoke to Shoei NA before buying the helmet about the design air leakage on the top vent, and I was told that all neos for colder climates have a 100% closable top vent with a build-date of after April 2012. My helmet does not leak air.

This is my first pinlock experience, and it rocks. Rain, 36F, no fogging! We'll see how it does in the twenties next month, I suppose. As a previous poster mentioned, sometimes the pinlock can leak a little if the faceshield gets torqued. Not sure what I will do if that happens while riding. Easy enough to fix at home.

I had some initial comfort issues with my Neo in regards to the top of my ears. As the helmet has broken in, I have noticed that it rotated ever so slightly forward on my skull, completely freeing up my ears. Overall now, I am very happy with my Neo as my bad weather helmet.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:12 PM   #148
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I'm in the market now and appreciate this thread. Unfortunately, the Scuberth doesn't fit me perfectly (very close, but no cigar)with a conundrum. I did think the Schuberth was quieter in a side by side in the store trial, so I'm still on the fence. Quietness was a big draw for me in respect to the Schuberth.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:02 AM   #149
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I had the C3 and it is quieter than the Neotech which I have now, but the C3 gave me the forehead indention pain so bad on a 600 mile ride, I sold it as soon as I got home. I really liked the C3 but it just did not get along with my forehead.

I had the multitec and the version before that and I find that Shoei fits my head perfectly.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:30 AM   #150
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Have a NeoTec. Upgraded from my previous MultiTec.

What I have been wanting, but have been unable to locate is a tinted / darker visor. For my preference, I don't find the sunshade is adequate and I don't want to ride with sunglasses.

On my previous MultiTec, I got a nice dark tinted visor, drilled my own PinLock holes and used a dark PinLock insert. For bright sunny days, it was perfect. I always carry a clear visor with me, so I'm not worried about getting caught out in the dark.

Is anyone making tinted/darker visors for the NeoTec?
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