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Old 11-07-2012, 06:40 AM   #70786
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On reserve already?

Two questions for the collective:
1) I have about 5L of gas left in the safari tank. Is it normal to be on reserve already?



2) If I try to rotate the carb elbow to the 9 o-clock position to try and get all the fuel out of the tank I feel like it is going to snap off. What are my options if this thing wont budge? I dont have enough talent or skill to drill it out and fit a new inlet...nor do I actually own a bench vice . Should I just give it a go with a vice grip and if I break it, buy a new carb (would rather not)? Is there a fuel pump or vacuum that I can hook up?

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:34 AM   #70787
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My Safari goes totally dry on reserve. Try blowing into your cap vent line and see if that clears a vapor lock in your gas line.

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Two questions for the collective:
1) I have about 5L of gas left in the safari tank. Is it normal to be on reserve already?



2) If I try to rotate the carb elbow to the 9 o-clock position to try and get all the fuel out of the tank I feel like it is going to snap off. What are my options if this thing wont budge? I dont have enough talent or skill to drill it out and fit a new inlet...nor do I actually own a bench vice . Should I just give it a go with a vice grip and if I break it, buy a new carb (would rather not)? Is there a fuel pump or vacuum that I can hook up?

Thanks,
Canoli
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:43 AM   #70788
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Two questions for the collective:
1) I have about 5L of gas left in the safari tank. Is it normal to be on reserve already?
2) If I try to rotate the carb elbow to the 9 o-clock position to try and get all the fuel out of the tank I feel like it is going to snap off. What are my options if this thing wont budge?
The point where you go on reserve is determined by how tall the pipe coming out of the top of the petcock is. If you want less reserve fuel you can cut the pipe shorter. Changing the angle of the carb inlet won't affect when it goes on reserve.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:24 AM   #70789
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Two questions for the collective:
1) I have about 5L of gas left in the safari tank. Is it normal to be on reserve already?
5L liters of reserve on a tank that size is just about right, IMHO. I'd go with it, be happy!
The important thing is how much of your reserve can you use. I would strap on a 5 liter fuel jug and run out your reserve ... just so you know your TRUE range.
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2) If I try to rotate the carb elbow to the 9 o-clock position to try and get all the fuel out of the tank I feel like it is going to snap off. What are my options if this thing wont budge? I dont have enough talent or skill to drill it out and fit a new inlet...nor do I actually own a bench vice . Should I just give it a go with a vice grip and if I break it, buy a new carb (would rather not)? Is there a fuel pump or vacuum that I can hook up?
Thanks,
Canoli
Don't worry about rotating the Elbow. Leave it. No drilling. Main thing is to know just how far you can go on your reserve. With the IMS, about 2 liters are left once reserve runs out. You can only use that last bit of fuel if you tip the bike over. Good luck! Enjoy!
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:48 AM   #70790
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Wow. Post 71,001 Great thread. Thanks for all the info and inspiration. My commuter and weekend warrior.

Paddle007 screwed with this post 11-07-2012 at 11:54 AM Reason: Add pic
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:47 PM   #70791
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Wow, thanks for the awesome write-ups everyone. I feel inspired. Hell, I feel downright confident, and I haven't even had a beer yet.

ER70S-2 - Wow, I feel like I am ready to tackle this job. Well, as soon as I get a six-pack I will be.

I guess I am pretty handy with tools, I used to rebuild camera and lenses, and work with computers and servers daily.

A "stock rebuild" kit is on the way from Moose Racing. I didn't want to get in there and find something like gasket, jet, etc that would leave me bike-less while I wait for parts. If it gets here before the weekend, I'll be getting dirty down in the garage with some carb work.

Mongel - I get down to Charlotte occasionally, not as much as I used to before I had kids, but I do a lot of things occasionally now days.

Same to you, if you are ever in Durham, I'd be happy to show all the swell bars!

Skidmarkart screwed with this post 11-07-2012 at 12:48 PM Reason: hands faster than eyes and brain - gets me in a lot of trouble.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:41 PM   #70792
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Wow. Post 71,001 Great thread. Thanks for all the info and inspiration. My commuter and weekend warrior.

Nice looking setup! What happened to the windscreen on your lynx fairing? I've gotten much better at remembering to lower mine all the way down when going offroad after smashing it on a tricky downhill, along with my handguard plastic.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:34 PM   #70793
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A "stock rebuild" kit is on the way from Moose Racing. I didn't want to get in there and find something like gasket, jet, etc that would leave me bike-less while I wait for parts.
The Moose kit does not include the orings for the float assembly or the oring for the mixture screw.
It's pretty likely that your mixture screw oring is OK but almost certain that the float assembly orings will be toast.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:50 PM   #70794
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The Moose kit does not include the orings for the float assembly or the oring for the mixture screw.
It's pretty likely that your mixture screw oring is OK but almost certain that the float assembly orings will be toast.
I had a set of the float o-rings go bad after 18 months. They cost quite a bit of $$ from Suzuki. Any other sources? How about from KTM or anothe manufacturer that uses that carb?
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:57 PM   #70795
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I had a set of the float o-rings go bad after 18 months. They cost quite a bit of $$ from Suzuki. Any other sources? How about from KTM or anothe manufacturer that uses that carb?

Motolab/Derek in the vendors thread maybe?

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...hlight=motolab
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:26 PM   #70796
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Wow. Post 71,001 Great thread. Thanks for all the info and inspiration. My commuter and weekend warrior.
Ok, I'm not usually envious of other guy's "toys" ...that thing is pretty trick!

Mine looks like it has been used as a rodeo barell!
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:42 PM   #70797
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Motolab/Derek in the vendors thread maybe?

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...hlight=motolab

Derek does probably carry those. I've purchased a bunch of BST40 parts from him and found his prices reasonable, shipping quick & fair. I've also spent some time on the phone with Derek and found his advice very helpful.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:49 PM   #70798
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I had the guys in Fabrication make some brackets and the guys in electrical class wire up these Vision x Solstice LED's. The lights work great at dusk. Can only work better at night.






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Old 11-07-2012, 03:49 PM   #70799
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Derek does probably carry those. I've purchased a bunch of BST40 parts from him and found his prices reasonable, shipping quick & fair. I've also spent some time on the phone with Derek and found his advice very helpful.
Thanks MikeyP and Ga Thumper I'll look into it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:51 PM   #70800
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Wow. Post 71,001 Great thread. Thanks for all the info and inspiration. My commuter and weekend warrior.
What front end is that? Makes the bike look like it's been on a diet. Looks skinny compared to stock.
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