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Old 11-09-2012, 05:39 AM   #3601
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paralevers on the wrong side - whats that all about?

(yes I know there are other models with it on that side but....)
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:05 AM   #3602
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Thanks for the info....so base price went up by about 2,000 SEK...that is about $300US, but the new bike includes ABS and on the one you looked at, heated grips. So that's a pretty good deal then. Translating the price of the Dynamik package, that would be about $2,700US.

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I looked into this as well and did some simple conversions that are probably not accurate, just speculative. With the MSRP of a 2012 (since it includes ABS) at $16,150 in the US, that gives about a 74.2% difference in the converted Swedish price for a 2012 R1200GS and the US price. Looking at the new Swedish price and taking 74.2% of that (when converted to USD), I got $16,372.64, so only a little more than a $200 increase. I am kind of doubtful that the heated grips will be standard equipment in the US but that is a $250 option in previous models so it would make the price of a new water-cooled GS about equal to the 2012 GS if it was standard. Doubtful, but we can hope .
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:03 AM   #3603
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I looked into this as well and did some simple conversions that are probably not accurate, just speculative. With the MSRP of a 2012 (since it includes ABS) at $16,150 in the US, that gives about a 74.2% difference in the converted Swedish price for a 2012 R1200GS and the US price. Looking at the new Swedish price and taking 74.2% of that (when converted to USD), I got $16,372.64, so only a little more than a $200 increase. I am kind of doubtful that the heated grips will be standard equipment in the US but that is a $250 option in previous models so it would make the price of a new water-cooled GS about equal to the 2012 GS if it was standard. Doubtful, but we can hope .
Heck for the number of bikes BMW sold on the current platform, they should be able to sell them 10% less than the current MSRP. The current GS has been a complete cash-cow....they sell every single one made and the models have not changed enough from year to year that major factory re-tooling had to be done. What a bike...very few that can make similar claims.

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Old 11-09-2012, 09:19 AM   #3604
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paralevers on the wrong side - whats that all about?
Was discussed before and BMW gives an explanation:

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This avoids any contact between the rider and the hot exhaust system when pushing or getting on and off the machine. Another pleasing effect relates to the appearance of the vehicle: when the motorcycle is on the side stand there is now a clear view of the redesigned rear wheel.
That's straight from the press material.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:17 AM   #3605
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I looked into this as well and did some simple conversions that are probably not accurate, just speculative. With the MSRP of a 2012 (since it includes ABS) at $16,150 in the US, that gives about a 74.2% difference in the converted Swedish price for a 2012 R1200GS and the US price. Looking at the new Swedish price and taking 74.2% of that (when converted to USD), I got $16,372.64, so only a little more than a $200 increase. I am kind of doubtful that the heated grips will be standard equipment in the US but that is a $250 option in previous models so it would make the price of a new water-cooled GS about equal to the 2012 GS if it was standard. Doubtful, but we can hope .
And don't forget, ABS is standard now...so if base price stays almost the same that's really equivalent to about a $1,000 drop.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM   #3606
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Heck for the number of bikes BMW sold on the current platform, they should be able to sell them 10% less than the current MSRP. The current GS has been a complete cash-cow....they sell every single one made and the models have not changed enough from year to year that major factory re-tooling had to be done. What a bike...very few that can make similar claims.

I bet they certainly could sell them for less, but as you say they sell every one they make so why should they?
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:23 AM   #3607
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I wonder how stiff those 'fangs' are..... as they seem to trap air in the area of the radiator at speed
Extra stiff fangs will be available through Touratech
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:21 PM   #3608
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I bet they certainly could sell them for less, but as you say they sell every one they make so why should they?
Yep!! Fo shizzle!
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:23 PM   #3609
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:45 AM   #3610
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Personally I want flexable fangs. if something breaks I want it to be the fang not the fang mount. I crash my dirt bikes all the time (pretty good at crashing...) and their shrouds stick out much further, but just flex most of the time. That said the handlebars, most of the time, act as kind of a crash bar for the shrouds.

No mater the exact price this new information makes me believe that the pricing will be in the same ballpark which gives us a "target" to plan for. I am much more comfortable now (already ordered one with no pricing).

Going to the motorcycle show this Friday in San Mateo can't wait to get my hands on it.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:57 AM   #3611
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Going to the motorcycle show this Friday in San Mateo can't wait to get my hands on it.
Same here - really want to sit on it. But more important: waiting on the demo models. I'll definitely not get one of the first release models but will wait for the "fine-tuned" second year. Have done too much beta testing in my life already.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:45 AM   #3612
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Are you sure it will be there?

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Personally I want flexable fangs. if something breaks I want it to be the fang not the fang mount. I crash my dirt bikes all the time (pretty good at crashing...) and their shrouds stick out much further, but just flex most of the time. That said the handlebars, most of the time, act as kind of a crash bar for the shrouds.

No mater the exact price this new information makes me believe that the pricing will be in the same ballpark which gives us a "target" to plan for. I am much more comfortable now (already ordered one with no pricing).

Going to the motorcycle show this Friday in San Mateo can't wait to get my hands on it.
What makes you think the new R1200GS will be at the bike show this weekend?? Did one of the shops say it would be there? I hope it is but in my history of going to the show over the past 20-30 years BMW rarely has the new models at the US shows this early in the next model year.

Was in Germany, Belgium, and England the last two weeks and they have all of the new t-shirts, brochures, posters, etc for the 2103 model but in the US even those are not availalble yet. Post pictures if it is there. I was planning on going Sat, or Sun.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:22 PM   #3613
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FWIW I just stopped by my local dealer and they have a 2013 GS as a non water Boxer. A camhead as it were. They are saying the water head maybe a mid year 2014.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:44 PM   #3614
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FWIW I just stopped by my local dealer and they have a 2013 GS as a non water Boxer. A camhead as it were. They are saying the water head maybe a mid year 2014.
We haven't gotten an official release date, but everything indicates the new bike will be a 2014 model released in 2013, perhaps as early as spring. This sounds like a typical BS salesperson tactic to be pessimistic about the new stuff coming to sell what they have on the floor.

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Old 11-11-2012, 02:51 PM   #3615
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We haven't gotten an official release date, but everything indicates the new bike will be a 2014 model released in 2013, perhaps as early as spring. This sounds like a typical BS salesperson tactic to be pessimistic about the new stuff coming to sell what they have on the floor.

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I'm missing the BS? He didn't say arrive in mid calendar year 2014, he said a mid year model introduction of 2014 model. I think that is a pretty good assumption. It's always possible they want a 2013 camhead and a 2013 waterhead, but given that the bikes won't even be here until late March or April at the earliest, my guess is it will be a 2014 model bike.
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