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Old 11-15-2012, 07:39 AM   #3646
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Not sure if serious...

If so, a bad idea, the locals have been snippy lately over foreskins, whale or otherwise.
I'm serious. It's a big market there.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:14 AM   #3647
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I'm serious. It's a big market there.
I think Los Angeles. Southern California has lot of adventure riding, and then along onto Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, Utah.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:20 AM   #3648
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Here is my take on this bikes 1st run. BMW is releasing "2014" model in March next year - 2013. So all of 2013, we will have 2014 model, then comes the following year - 2014, the bike will not become 2015, but remain the same. Hence, 2014 WC GS will remain as is for two years.

Few Small enhancements if we're required, won't happen till 2015!

Personally if I were to get it, it would this new 2014 model, no point waiting for two years for any minute fixes.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:21 AM   #3649
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I think Los Angeles. Southern California has lot of adventure riding, and then along onto Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, Utah.
Probably. You're going to have a bigger crowd there with deeper pockets compared to the 4 bordering states. Those states are big for adventure riding, but I still think Cali is where it will premier. Completely speculation though, I could be completely wrong.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:22 AM   #3650
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Here is my take on this bikes 1st run. BMW is releasing "2014" model in March next year - 2013. So all of 2013, we will have 2014 model, then comes the following year - 2014, the bike will not become 2015, but remain the same. Hence, 2014 WC GS will remain as is for two years.

Few Small enhancements if we're required, won't happen till 2015!

Personally if I were to get it, it would this new 2014 model, no point waiting for two years for any minute fixes.
+1. I agree. Good points.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:08 PM   #3651
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Few Small enhancements if we're required, won't happen till 2015!
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Not really. Changes happen as needed and at any time in the production cycle and need not wait for a new model year. We've seen this when the 1200GS was introduced as a 2005 model in 2004, along with other BMW bikes where subtle and unannounced changes happen mid cycle.. This is espeically obvious when a problematic part is updated with a new part number for the current model year. For example when they had a problem with the immobilizer antenna, there were 4 successive part numbers before the problem was resolved.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:57 PM   #3652
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Not really. Changes happen as needed and at any time in the production cycle and need not wait for a new model year. We've seen this when the 1200GS was introduced as a 2005 model in 2004, along with other BMW bikes where subtle and unannounced changes happen mid cycle.. This is espeically obvious when a problematic part is updated with a new part number for the current model year. For example when they had a problem with the immobilizer antenna, there were 4 successive part numbers before the problem was resolved.
Agree, but not always 'as needed' at least by my definition. Some issues remain for years for some reason.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:08 PM   #3653
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Probably. You're going to have a bigger crowd there with deeper pockets compared to the 4 bordering states. Those states are big for adventure riding, but I still think Cali is where it will premier. Completely speculation though, I could be completely wrong.
AND......
............

California has way more Starbucks then the 4 bordering states.

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Old 11-16-2012, 03:08 PM   #3654
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Here is my take on this bikes 1st run. BMW is releasing "2014" model in March next year - 2013. So all of 2013, we will have 2014 model, then comes the following year - 2014, the bike will not become 2015, but remain the same. Hence, 2014 WC GS will remain as is for two years.

Few Small enhancements if we're required, won't happen till 2015!

Personally if I were to get it, it would this new 2014 model, no point waiting for two years for any minute fixes.
Well, the human race is supposed to be wiped out on Dec. 21st. this year, so who gives a fuck?
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:31 PM   #3655
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Well, the human race is supposed to be wiped out on Dec. 21st. this year, so who gives a fuck?
I don't know about you, but I do plan on living past Dec 21st, along with a whole lot of others. Enjoy your limited stay.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:12 PM   #3656
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Probably. You're going to have a bigger crowd there with deeper pockets compared to the 4 bordering states. Those states are big for adventure riding, but I still think Cali is where it will premier. Completely speculation though, I could be completely wrong.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but no effing way. There's no "adventure" draw to that part of SoCal. They won't pick the venue for the potential market, but for the place that gives the best combination of backdrop and riding. Witness: North Georgia for the K16.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:28 AM   #3657
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Same here - really want to sit on it. But more important: waiting on the demo models. I'll definitely not get one of the first release models but will wait for the "fine-tuned" second year. Have done too much beta testing in my life already.
So how's the show? Get a chance to sit on the bike?
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:35 AM   #3658
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So how's the show? Get a chance to sit on the bike?
Don't know yet - about to leave the house in a few minutes ...
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:50 AM   #3659
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but no effing way. There's no "adventure" draw to that part of SoCal. They won't pick the venue for the potential market, but for the place that gives the best combination of backdrop and riding. Witness: North Georgia for the K16.
More Starbucks in S. Cali then the rest of the world. Starbucks will make make a great backdrop for all those fully farkled GS that never so much as get dusty....

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Old 11-17-2012, 02:46 PM   #3660
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More Starbucks in S. Cali then the rest of the world. Starbucks will make make a great backdrop for all those fully farkled GS that never so much as get dusty....

Regards, Paul
Damn! Ya beat me to it. I was about to say almost those exact words.

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