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Old 11-16-2012, 03:21 PM   #1081
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It's a $179 guitar! If it depreciates to zero you can only lose $179!


I just got an email from Sweetwater, who has Les Paul Traditional models on closeout for $1699, which is a pretty great deal.
$179 is still a lot of money.

Probably a good time to buy. Although, I'm sorta interested in hearing how they sound with a vintage body.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:19 PM   #1082
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Since i'm too poor toworry much about it, i'm gonna go with the slow bike fast mentality.

Dad had something, some elderly strat thing that got lost when he remarried and we all moved in together. I do remember that thing being orders and orders of magnitude easier on the fingers.

For o e thing it seemed about half the thickness of the peavey, and half the weight too. But the fingering was just....easier. I have no idea why and probably never will now.

Edit I do remember that it was rounded everywhere instead of having any even remotely squared off edges. And it had 3 pickups, 2 knobs, and either a 5 way or 3 way switch.
Hmm, there have been a few different carved tops over the years. I'm not a fan of them though.

If you're looking at a lighter guitar though I'd stay away from the LP though. The SG is what you'd want or maybe Melody Maker. If what you want is a Epi/Gibson style guitar. On the Fender side a Squire Classic Vibe is usually a good buy. Either a Strat or a Tele. There's a lot of good buzz on the Tele Classic Vibe Custom. It's a bit more then $200 new but you might be able to find one used. You'll find a lot of decent electrics in the $500 (new) range.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:33 PM   #1083
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If rocksmith has convinced me of one thing.... It's that eric clapton is the devil.

I'll look at anything... looking doesn't cost money
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:38 PM   #1084
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When Epiphone had the headstock that looked like an open book, it was a lot easier for unscrupulous people to convert and sell Epi Les Paul's as Gibson's. It's also why the truss rod cover now uses three screws rather then just two. Metric hardware instead of inch, etc...
I think the headstocks I liked were on the Scroll model:





Similar, but exaggerated. Long curves. Sure, the body looked like what Prince was thinking about before he knew he was thinking about it, but I've always wanted one of these. Found one in a miscellany store once and should've brought it home. They're set apart from most of what Gibson has ever done, and even the odd stuff Epi did back then.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:45 PM   #1085
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I think the headstocks I liked were on the Scroll model:





Similar, but exaggerated. Long curves. Sure, the body looked like what Prince was thinking about before he knew he was thinking about it, but I've always wanted one of these. Found one in a miscellany store once and should've brought it home. They're set apart from most of what Gibson has ever done, and even the odd stuff Epi did back then.
That's similar to the ones they use on the Casino. I'd love to have one some day, too.

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Old 11-17-2012, 07:39 AM   #1086
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Question for all you acoustic types...

I have used medium guage strings on my Martin since dinosaurs roamed the planet. My old fingers are starting to feel the pain through the callouses. Is there a huge difference in using light gauge strings? I know I could just go out and buy a set, but I'd like to hear your experiences.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:40 AM   #1087
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Sorry if this is off topic or 205

Question for all you acoustic types...

I have used medium guage strings on my Martin since dinosaurs roamed the planet. My old fingers are starting to feel the pain through the callouses. Is there a huge difference in using light gauge strings? I know I could just go out and buy a set, but I'd like to hear your experiences.
Yes, you'll notice a difference....................mainly in tone. The tone is going to be weaker with lights or extra-lights. Yes, it will be a little bit easier on your fingers, but to me it's only a moderate difference and one I'm not willing to sacrifice tone for.

I always ask people "What is a guitar manufacturers job?"

Answer: To sell guitars.

How do they do that? By making them sound as good as they can and play at least moderately easy. To me it's worth noting that nearly every manufacturer ships their guitars with .012-.54's or thereabouts, not .010-.50. The heavier strings just sound that much better and don't really make it largely noticeably harder to play.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:54 AM   #1088
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Sorry if this is off topic or 205

Question for all you acoustic types...

I have used medium guage strings on my Martin since dinosaurs roamed the planet. My old fingers are starting to feel the pain through the callouses. Is there a huge difference in using light gauge strings? I know I could just go out and buy a set, but I'd like to hear your experiences.
What gauge? .013- ?
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:06 AM   #1089
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Yes, you'll notice a difference....................mainly in tone. The tone is going to be weaker with lights or extra-lights. Yes, it will be a little bit easier on your fingers, but to me it's only a moderate difference and one I'm not willing to sacrifice tone for.

I always ask people "What is a guitar manufacturers job?"

Answer: To sell guitars.

How do they do that? By making them sound as good as they can and play at least moderately easy. To me it's worth noting that nearly every manufacturer ships their guitars with .012-.54's or thereabouts, not .010-.50. The heavier strings just sound that much better and don't really make it largely noticeably harder to play.
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What gauge? .013- ?
Yep, I'm using 13s. Around here (North Carolina) we use the heaviest gauge possible that will not pull the guitar apart. I swear, some of the guys here use heavy gauge strings and play with actions high enough you could shoot an arrow with it!

I'll probably stick with mediums and keep drinkin' Jack to anesthetize the fangers!
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:21 AM   #1090
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Yep, I'm using 13s. Around here (North Carolina) we use the heaviest gauge possible that will not pull the guitar apart. I swear, some of the guys here use heavy gauge strings and play with actions high enough you could shoot an arrow with it!

I'll probably stick with mediums and keep drinkin' Jack to anesthetize the fangers!
IMO, .012's wont sacrifice much tone, and they are noticeably easier on my fingers. Also, Martin (and others, probably) make "half sizes". I used some Martin SP .0125's for awhile; a good compromise.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:38 AM   #1091
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.012-54's are the most popular and what comes shipped on most new guitars. It's our best selling string gauge for acoustic and it's a really good compromise between tone and playability.

If you want to torture your fingers, grab a diehard bluegrassers guitar and play it. Most those guys use AT LEAST .013-56's and have their action pretty high. The higher the action and heavier the string, the louder your acoustic guitar will be, as a general rule. Those guys don't plug in and they want to be heard so they string 'em heavy and leave the action high.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:52 AM   #1092
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I actually played until my fingers were bleeding tonight. I stuck my hand in the dishwater yesterday afternoon and took one of the tines of a fork up under the nail of my ring finger. Now I've been vamping along to this with the guitar. Oh, hell, life is complicated:






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Old 11-18-2012, 08:03 AM   #1093
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Late to the party, but here are my kids...

Historic Les Pauls... Left to Right, 59, 58 and 57 loaded with Wolftones except the 57 which has Duncan Seths.

**Not pictured...PRS Single Cut and Taylor 810*




Historic re-issue or original?
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:09 AM   #1094
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Thank you all for your support. I'll go back to the beginning of this thread and read. Then, when I get a chance, work is

very busy right now, I'll go to my local music store and talk to them, and listen to them and some guitars and amps. Maybe

this is doable after all these years. I may finally be able to play music....... just a little..... :)
What type of music do you listen to? There are about a million you-tube videos giving guitar instruction on every song ever written (or so it seems). Due to the economy you can get a great deal on used stuff. There has never been a better time to start.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:12 AM   #1095
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Well, I went and played one. I gotta say, for $2400.00, I was sorely disappointed. There were areas where the vinyl was pealing off the chassis. And, the noise! Electronic interference and radio station noise. Buzzing and humming noise. Pretty much unshielded, electronic, poor quality control noise. No way in hell I'm paying that kind of scratch for something that sounds like it was put together by a 5 year old.

The Fender '65 Deluxe Reverb I played on the other hand...
I just got an Orange hard-wired tiny terror last year, kinda disappointing. I wish I would have jumped on the used Marshall tubed amp for $300 more.
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