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Old 11-17-2012, 09:23 AM   #71191
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Before someone tries to call BS on that statement, I also went from a sport bike (Ninja 650r) to this bike, and noticed that this does feel much more agile, especially in extremely tight turns where the wider bars give you some leverage. Can't wait to try my bike with supermoto wheels.
i have not ridden a purpose-built motard, but i can tell you, you will not be disappointed - a 'tarded dr650 is a beautiful thing, you will be one w/the bike. unless of course, you are like princess johnkol/penelope..


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Old 11-17-2012, 09:33 AM   #71192
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Frame flex,i get it now

Alright I'll say it.Maybe you should of bought a KLR?
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:03 AM   #71193
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Looks like you're in Tonopah - Death Valley Is a bit SW from there :-)

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Old 11-17-2012, 10:04 AM   #71194
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i have not ridden a purpose-built motard, but i can tell you, you will not be disappointed - a 'tarded dr650 is a beautiful thing, you will be one w/the bike. unless of course, you are like princess johnkol/penelope..


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I've got no real issue with my bike. I bet my highway cruising problems would go away if I just ran on a treadmill and lost some weight

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Old 11-17-2012, 10:41 AM   #71195
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Frame flex,i get it now

Alright I'll say it.Maybe you should of bought a KLR?
Don't even get him started on the KLR, then I would have to tell him he don't know what the heck he is talking about, plan and simple.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:44 AM   #71196
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I've got no real issue with my bike. I bet my highway cruising problems would go away if I just ran on a treadmill and lost some weight

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could be true; as my bike cruises yust fine at 80mph, and i weigh only ~155lbs.

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Old 11-17-2012, 10:57 AM   #71197
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i have not ridden a purpose-built motard, but i can tell you, you will not be disappointed - a 'tarded dr650 is a beautiful thing, you will be one w/the bike. unless of course, you are like princess johnkol/penelope..
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+1 on both points, I bought my DR650SM this summer and it is an absolute blast on the back roads and on a good day it does feel like an extension of myself...but I am not a princess (OR a corksniffer) .... FWIW I went from a 150/60 on the rear to a 150/70, not crazy about the looks but that effectively bumped the gearing up about 5% and my bike is much nicer to ride on freeways, it no longer sounds a bit strained at 70-75 mph. I need a front fender like yours for the winter though, the trimmed stocker sends water up and on to the bike and rider.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:13 AM   #71198
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Picture a seam without any height difference between the left and right planes; suspension is not involved.
I had the same problem when mine was new. When i hit grooved pavement, or road seams, or any kind of sand it would seem as if the bike was twisting and it really scared me. I kept reading about how great the DR650 was, so I just figured it was my poor riding abilities.
When I went to change my first tire I found that the swingarm bushings were completely wasted - had less than 4000 miles on it. Had them replaced under warranty. After they were replaced the "frame flex" problem went away completely.
Now I've gone from riding a Flexy Flyer to a Sexy Flyer hahaha!
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:14 AM   #71199
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I bet you do have a lot of great time on the DR and the focus of this thread masks it. Brains and "framing" with words are antithetical to the state we seek through riding. But I think we'll agree the bike is always secondary to the ride. Lick the envelope.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:17 AM   #71200
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Before someone tries to call BS on that statement, I also went from a sport bike (Ninja 650r) to this bike, and noticed that this does feel much more agile, especially in extremely tight turns where the wider bars give you some leverage. Can't wait to try my bike with supermoto wheels.
The bike I've been the best rider on was my ZX-7R. I think what you're believing is agility is actually a much lower weight, different rake, and possibly the thinner front tire.

Depending on the speed and the road, I could see how a fixed up DR650 would be great, but it's still nowhere in comparison to a ZX through sweeping fast turns. Even if a DR650 did have the HP to keep up, on a more open race track it's flex would be too much for me to care about it.

If a rider's hard turns are at 45 to 65 (or even under, obviously), the DR could seem like the bike to have. The 'agility' of a sport bike comes when you're taking corners faster than most states' top speed limits.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:04 PM   #71201
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I ride too slowly to notice frame flex.
The main difference compared to my TT350 is inertia.
The extra weight the DR carries.

But compared to some, it carries it well.

With the extra inertia comes a little plushness which is nice.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:37 PM   #71202
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For it's intended use and target user ... the suspension is actually not bad, especially considering this was 1996!
I disagree. I weigh 130 lbs and both forks and shock have way too much compression damping. On sharp impacts the forks pack up and deliver a violent jolt to your arms. Shock is even worse because it effectively has no rebound damping, so on successive bumps it becomes airborne and essentially stalls forward momentum of the bike.

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BTW, Rodney was also involved with R&D of the DRZ400. Shame they haven't updated that bike either. It was good in 2000 ... now? Not so much.
I think I can discern a pattern here. I rode a DRZ400E around 2002, and after a relatively short gnarly section my arms were shot: way too much compression damping was transmitting all impacts to my arms -- and the setting had already been adjusted full soft. The Husaberg FE400 that I hopped on immediately afterwards felt like a magic carpet in comparison. So I disagree on the DRZ too: it wasn't good even when it was first introduced.

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Old 11-17-2012, 01:27 PM   #71203
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Good thinking here. My DR behaves in a similar manner when the IMS tank locking gas cap vent gets plugged. (Procycle says to fix it by poking a hole in the rubber disk under the green plastic piece. I've done that and it works for a while, but needs poking with an ice pick every now and then to keep the hole open).

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The locking cap has a small rubber disk inside it that acts as a one way valve so fuel doesn't splash out through the internal vent. You can access the disk by removing the rubber gasket and unscrewing the green plastic piece inside the cap. Take a sharp pointed pick and poke a tiny hole in the disk and you will solve the venting issues. The hole should be barely more than a pinhole. If you make the hole too big you might have a small amount of fuel spillage in a tipover.[/I]


Another possibility is the small filter on the breather from the carb. Mine had a tiny piece of rag sucked in there and had similar symptoms to what you describe.

Both of these would be easy to check out.

................shu
I used a few zip ties to secure the kickstand safety switch and then rode 70 miles with no problems so I believe this might be it. I will remove the switch and see if the problem reoccurs when the weather dries out.

My bike seldom sits for more than a couple days as I do not own a car.


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Old 11-17-2012, 01:58 PM   #71204
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Hi fellas........I'm thinking about getting a DR for a bit of offroad touring.I have a Gas Gas EC300 and an XR650R for the real dirty stuff but have just broken my right ankle so won't be kickstarting for a while.

If I could get a DR close to the XR's performance I'd be happy.

Would a big bore/cammed/carbed/piped DR have similar performance?

Is the Ricor shock/fork valve combo a good setup?

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Old 11-17-2012, 02:24 PM   #71205
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Hi fellas........I'm thinking about getting a DR for a bit of offroad touring.I have a Gas Gas EC300 and an XR650R for the real dirty stuff but have just broken my right ankle so won't be kickstarting for a while.

If I could get a DR close to the XR's performance I'd be happy.

Would a big bore/cammed/carbed/piped DR have similar performance?

Is the Ricor shock/fork valve combo a good setup?

Cheer's Jack.
The opinion that seems to be the most prevalent around here is that the suspension is the weakest link. You'll be spending a ton of money and getting a lot done inside that engine to get the HP and torque up to an XR650R's level. However, you can spend a couple hundred bucks and get your forks completely re-done to be pretty solid.
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