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Old 11-19-2012, 11:32 PM   #76
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Two or three years ago, a friend visited me for a few days. He wanted to go riding and asked me to arrange a retal bike for him. The choices were somewhat limited, and the best option I could find was a Suzuki Boulevard M109R. Neither of us are into cruisers, but we were both mildly excited to try it. The bike looked fabulous in white with a blue GT stripe down the middle like the one in the pic. I was not expecting it to handle like a sports bike, but I thought it would be OK for a cruiser. Having enjoyed the massive torque of a Triumph Rocket III on occations, I was hoping that the Suzuki's 1,800 cc motor would deliver similar thrills. We were both very disappointed. The motor proved to be gutless, ground clearance was nonexistent and that fat rear tyre produced plenty of sphincter-clenching slides around corners on wet roads. In addition, the upright, feet forward seating position made it the single most uncomfortable bike that I have ever experienced. Not even a full-on sports bike could have inflicted more lower back pain on an extended ride.

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Old 11-20-2012, 04:31 AM   #77
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Originally Posted by xshanex View Post

I see people list bikes and tear apart bikes I've ridden and I wonder what bike makes them happy and think that maybe I'm missing out on some great ride.....I look in their sig line and they own bikes that I have ridden which I hated and thought were crap boring's all opinion
Disagreed. It's all about perspective, man. This is not about labeling bikes as good or bad but giving a different perspective and opinion that may give someone else a relative heads up. Good stuff, I think. I've already seen several listings of bikes I loved being dogged. Interesting...
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:46 AM   #78
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Any modern sportbike tha twists me up like a pretzel. I've just gotten to the point that I want comfort MUCH more than outright speed.
I bought one of my dream bikes in 09, a Duc 1198 with full Ohlins from Dan Kyle, and even rode a few before buying it including a 1098R. After about 1500 miles I knew it wasn't for me, I just couldn't do it anymore. I put couple thousand more miles on it and sent it off to it's new home in mid 11 and haven't looked back.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:47 AM   #79
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Originally Posted by cls View Post
Disagreed. It's all about perspective, man. This is not about labeling bikes as good or bad but giving a different perspective and opinion that may give someone else a relative heads up. Good stuff, I think. I've already seen several listings of bikes I loved being dogged. Interesting...
Yep, and to be honest, I'm having a blast reading through this thread.
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:50 AM   #80
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Tiger 800xc

Bad air, too tall, and too squirrely (I very much preferred either the tiger 1050 or the speed triple).

I still haven't had a chance to try a regular 800, though.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:00 AM   #81
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Tiger 1050. I really wanted to like it, but didn't.
Victory Hammer. I'd been seriously considering buying one until the demo ride.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:02 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by scotty918 View Post
Yep, and to be honest, I'm having a blast reading through this thread.
As am I. And I have my own opinions/experiences to share.

NT700V - On paper, this was a perfect move-up bike for me, a mid-sized ST. So much utility, so little enjoyment. The motor had all the NVH of an agricultural device, suspension was wallowy, and it was top-heavy. I really *wanted* to like this bike, for all its practicality, but I just couldn't. It was also ugly and very, VERY overpriced.

2011 Ninja 650 - I went to a Kawi demo event, and got three rides scheduled, the 650, the ZX-6, and a C14. I was really going to this event to try the 650 and consider moving up from my '09 N250. I rode the ZX-6 first - LOVED the throttle response, hated the bar position (felt like they were under my chest, would have loved them further forward). Then I rode the C14, and was in love. A 688 lb bike shouldn't feel that nimble and stable at the same time, period. Then came the 650. It damn near fried my right leg (and I was wearing jeans, 60 degree day), the mirrors were completely unusable (if not seizure inducing) below 7-8k, and the godawful HONK of the intake sounded like a flock of geese had surrounded me and somehow found their way inside my helmet. It also didn't handle anywhere near as well as my 250. For the first time in my life, I couldn't wait to get off a motorcycle. I've never been so happy to get on my 250 to do a 50-mile interstate ride as I was that day, although I would have preferred the C14 for that task....
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:49 AM   #83
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2005 XL12r....looked great, ran great, but didn't do anything else well.

2008 Fatboy....looked great, felt nice, bought it. After 30 min of riding, my ass would be screaming at me to get off the bike. No soul either. Sold it.

CBR1000RR....sweet looking, but totally useless and uncomfortable around town. Glad I never bought one until after I rode a friend's.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:02 AM   #84
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Honda ST1300. Unstable at high speeds...hard to maneuver at low speeds.
The Truth About The ST1300
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:03 AM   #85
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I've only owned one bike that I did not like. My current 09 KLR650. I bought a 2000 model new at the end of 1999 and traded it for an SV650 six months later. I should have known better.

Brakes- crap
Suspension- crap: the forks twist to the point of bad stiction entering corners
engine- crap: lots of vibes with a great lack of power
Ergonomics- so so.

Totally uninspiring. I actually putt around at the speed limit most of the time.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:19 AM   #86
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pretty much every bike I've bought but don't still own.

v-strom 650. my first bike. completely reliable, but completely boring to me. it got me from A to B, but it was just another mode of transportation to me.

Triumph Sprint ST 995. great engine, but I could not ride more than 100 miles on it without feeling like I was being tortured.

Honda XR650L. Every time I rode it for more than 40 miles, I had to stop, take my migrane meds and lay down for two hours before I could ride it home. Seriously.

R1150RT. It was like riding in a car, with no windows. I didn't feel like I was on a motorbike.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:22 AM   #87
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On the contrary, give it a few more pages and dozens of successfull models (and almost every niche model) will be listed with a cry fest of people that didn't understand the concept for whatever reason.

I don't see this as being very constructive.
Many people live in areas where test rides are difficult to arrange, and thus base their purchasing decisions on what they
read in bike magazines or on web forums. For example, this was my situation with my first bike. I lived in a remote northern region in Canada and it was difficult to arrange a test ride. Thus I turned to the forums and to magazine reviews. At the time the Suzuki DL 650 was one of the most raved about bikes, and so I just bought one -- no test ride. Since I had committed to buy it, and didn't want to go through the purchasing process again I just rode it and rode it. I owned it for five years and put 50 000 kilometers on it. In hindsight, I think it was a bit over rated. The suspension was really poor, and while it had bullet proof reliability it wasn't very exciting to ride. So, here is my point. Bike forums tend to be filled with people who have 'committed' to a bike and thus protect it to some extent ie. don't emphasize how bad the suspension really is. Bike magazines often have certain biases as well. They are marketing tools, and thus tend to favor bikes which are pushing boundaries/categories or bikes which are pushing the market forward technologically. In the case of the DL 650, in 2004 and 2005 it was pushing the 'adventure/touring' category. I remember Cycle World running an article in 2005 or 2006 proclaiming the DL650 as possibly one of the best bikes ever. They had someone jumping rail road tracks with it, going on and on about how well it corned, and noting its off-road capability. It think this really was an overstatement, and would have appreciated a thread just like this which highlighted bikes that people wanted to like, but having tried them, just couldn't go with the hype of the moment.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:43 AM   #88
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Yam FZ6 Fazer... So much to like: fast, smooth, decent-looking, comfortable riding position, well-equipped including centrestand, underseat pipes, good finish... But it camber-steered thanks to the over-wide rear tyre and had the most awful gearbox I have ridden since a 750 Super Tenere. Wayward steering and a rough gearshift are cardinal sins in my book. Might give another one a go, though.

Triumph Sprint RS 955i. Bulk torque, handsome looks and a reasonable riding position thanks to the fitment of ST 'bars meant it was mostly enjoyable to ride but for: too close a gap between 5th and 6th gears, so I was never sure which I was in without attempting a shift; such a flat torque curve that there was nothing to play with - apart from that 75ft/lb; would not pull 5th smoothly below 35mph, so town riding required 3k revs or more; minimal steering lock; annoying single-sided swingarm arrangement with rear hub that needed a 3/4" drive 46mm socket and 3ft tommy bar to remove the wheel; non-user adjustable idle speed; front brake that worked well but lever came almost all the way back to the bar first. Fast, mind, and with rock-solid high-speed handling.

I liked most stuff about my 1100RT; lower the screen and there's plenty of wind blast. The gearbox was dire either way between 1st and 2nd, it was a bit breathless at full throttle and it drank fuel fast.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:44 AM   #89
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Honda Pacific Coast.

I bought an '89 in the spring of last year after wanting one ever since I saw the spy photos way back. I have not owned or ridden many bikes but dreamed that bike was the one for me. Unfortunately wrecked it after a couple months but fixed it and am still commuting on it. It is reliable and practical, but a bit dull, with bothersome engine heat in hot weather but which is no help heating in cold weather. Buffeting from the stock windscreen and I'm too cheap to spend money trying different ones until I find one that works. I've left most of the bodywork off it in case I need to put a wrench to it sometime. Too big a bother when you need to reach anything. The trunk is great but I'd rather it had a key lock than the hidden-under-a-locked-flap remote release. Stuff like that. The stepped seat is a necessity due to the trunk but limits movement to adjust for comfort.

Thought about selling it and getting another early KLR but rode one since and had forgotten how agricultural they feel so that is probably out.

I only have room and time for one bike so will likely sell this and buy the first thing that appeals to me. Who knows what that one will be...
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:58 AM   #90
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Wow, I really liked the HyperMotard, they stopped the big demo ride and told me to quit wheelieing out of corners on it. Big time fun. The Multistrada 1200S also did it for me. Fast as ass, and real fun to ride. If they weren't $23,000+, I'd buy one.

Someone gave me a Ninja 250 one time. What a piece of crap. I gave it to someone else.

I read how great GS500Es were, as far as little commuter bikes go. Worst carburetors and front forks of anything I've ever ridden, before or since.

I've owned over 40 bikes. Some are memorable, like the Daytona 955, lots of personality, not particularly comfortable, a little primitive as far as throttle effort and clutch pull, but a pretty good bike.

I had an XR650L Supermoto, big bore, Carillo rod, ported and polished, titanium valves, HRC Cam that I thought was going to set the world on fire. The big bore, high compression piston overpowered the stock electric starter, sometimes that bitch just wouldn't start, usually if it stalled sitting at an intersection. Or just coming home from a store or something. When it started, it was fun to ride. When it didn't it was a bitch to push start, Which was about 1/2 the time. I traded it for a Sportster, another hunk O'crap. It ran like it should. It was in good shape. But the brakes sucked, the handling sucked, it shook like a paint shaker, and just wasn't a pleasant bike to ride.
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