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Old 11-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #3736
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I just heard that BMW transmissions will no longer be made by Getrag and in the case of the new GS, it will be made by Honda. Never rode a Honda, but I hear they have good transmissions, can anyone else comment?
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:45 PM   #3737
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I had a call from the dealer today asking for confirmation of spec and colour. So this is what I've gone for:

R1200GS Touring Edition - full spec here http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/motorc...-r-1200-gs-te/
Thunder Grey metallic
Cross spoke wheels
BMW alarm
Akropovic exhaust
BMW engine bars
Tinted screen
Full luggage (but I'm going to see what other luggage options there are from Touratech nearer the delivery date)

Release date in the UK is 3rd March 2013.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:56 PM   #3738
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I just heard that BMW transmissions will no longer be made by Getrag and in the case of the new GS, it will be made by Honda. Never rode a Honda, but I hear they have good transmissions, can anyone else comment?
If true, that would show extremely good judgment on BMW's part.

The more Jap parts they put on these bikes (and the fewer German parts) the better!

Looking at the phantom pics of that new tranny, it really does look like something the Japanese could/would build.

Too bad they didn't get the japs to design & build the new FD's too!
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:12 PM   #3739
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If true, that would show extremely good judgment on BMW's part.

The more Jap parts they put on these bikes (and the fewer German parts) the better!

Looking at the phantom pics of that new tranny, it really does look like something the Japanese could/would build.

Too bad they didn't get the japs to design & build the new FD's too!
Don't want to put a damper on your enthusiasm but I have had 3 Honda boxes fail and one yamaha and kawasaki box fail. Haven't had a BMW box fail although they are really clunky in operation they have held together for me.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:16 PM   #3740
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Don't want to put a damper on your enthusiasm but I have had 3 Honda boxes fail and one yamaha and kawasaki box fail.
You gotta be one hard-shiftin' sumbitch.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:37 PM   #3741
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The one in San Mateo had Halogen lights and did not include the "driving light" option, either.



Note that the parking light bulb is now inside the main headlamp, not separate like it is in the hexheads and camheads.
Does anyone know why they bother with parking lights these days?
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:43 PM   #3742
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No just badly setup boxes. Every one of them was damaged dogs because the gears weren't shimed properly or they had a design flaw in the case of the Honda's. I have broken more than that but they don't count because they were on the quarter mile so was expected. Nitros will do that lol.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:47 PM   #3743
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I had a F800ST which the gears broke inside, you couldn't shift from 5th to 6th in the end.
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:08 PM   #3744
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Does anyone know why they bother with parking lights these days?
In the EU anyway its because of old laws that they haven't removed. Construction and use says you need them so they have to put them in
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:06 PM   #3745
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I just heard that BMW transmissions will no longer be made by Getrag and in the case of the new GS, it will be made by Honda. Never rode a Honda, but I hear they have good transmissions, can anyone else comment?
No longer Gertrag is what I read a long time ago as well when BMW cancelled the agreement with Getrag but Honda? I kind of doubt it.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:03 AM   #3746
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No longer Gertrag is what I read a long time ago as well when BMW cancelled the agreement with Getrag but Honda? I kind of doubt it.
Why?
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:30 AM   #3747
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I thought they are sourced from a company who builds transmissions for Honda?
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:54 AM   #3748
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I thought they are sourced from a company who builds transmissions for Honda?
More likely, this is the case.
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:51 AM   #3749
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AFAIK Honda does pretty much everything in house.

Honda automatic transmissions in cars are quite different to conventional automatics, they do their own PGM-FI instead of buying it from bosch etc etc etc. I think they worked with someone a little on SH-AWD, but even that was primarily honda with outside eng. consultation.

Since the new GS's gearbox is inside the engine cases, surely it's built in house by BMW. Maybe they outsource the gears, but I imagine they make many of the parts and certainly perform all the shimming/assembly into the engine case.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:41 PM   #3750
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I'm not sure about that. I have a 2007 K 1200GT in my garage and word is that its' transmission was / is made by Gertag, and I beleive that was confirmed by a BMW Service Manager. Which brings up a point that I have not come across in all the speculation I have been reading here. Looking at the new GS, it's driveline is now on the opposite side of the bike as comparred to all previous GS's, but the same as the newer GT's. And when you consider that the new Boxer has a stacked transmission, and wet clutch, just as the KGT's, it becomes obvious, to me at least, that BMW has incorporated some of the technology that went into the develomement of the new K series of bikes. And as an owner of numerous BMW's over the years, from Airheads to Brick K's and both generations of Oilheads, if my GT is any example, there are going to alot of post from new owners about how these bikes shift as comparred to the old models. I like to consider myself pretty good on my BMW's, with smooth being the operative word, and it has taken me almost a year to get pretty " smooth " when it comes to running thru the gearbox. However, if my presumptions are accurate, at least new owners of the new GS will have had the slant 4 K bikes, and their owners, as Beta testers.
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