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Old 11-20-2012, 09:41 AM   #451
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I wonder why people say Mexico is not safe?

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Because of the Drug Wars and high murder rate in those areas. Never travel alone is the safest way.

Overall I find Mexico to be fun and safe. Generally I only go to Baja for the Riding and Fishing.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:14 AM   #452
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I wonder why people say Mexico is not safe?

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Because they have never been down here and they just believe all the lies from the US medias !!!
In the last 33 years I have been all over Mexico many times and solo , and I never had a problem . I have never heard about a tourist getting killed in Mexico, but I couldn't say the same about Miami .
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:12 AM   #453
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Hola Dos Kiwis,

I agree with Guate Rider, Betitolora and the others who have posted here. Yes, there is violence down here, just as there is everywhere in the world, but as long as you keep your head about you and take the US media with less than a grain of salt, like reading the headlines of the National Inquirer, you'll be alright. The American media are all about sensationalism to appeased the masses of mind numbed, slack jawed, television addicts. Riding at night and staying in dodgy neighborhoods are two things to avoid. You two don't seem like "nightclub types" so I needn't go into that.

Above all, have a great time, enjoy the people and the countries and if you find yourself in central Guerrero in the next week or so, let me know. I've got a room, safe parking, cold beer, mezcal, etc. if you're in need of any or all.

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Old 11-21-2012, 07:47 PM   #454
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Laugh Durango - 9th Most Dangerous City In The World

I think the article might have been from an American reporter.

Back to the trip.....

Dr650 ... left outside in the cold



Breaky was some local burrito style of thing, we had run out of muesli and heading to the main centre we though we would eat out.



On leaving from Tepehuanes it was a nice ride through mounts with rock bluffs and interesting scenery. Exiting the hilly part we hit 20000 miles (32000km) on the speedo since leaving from Alaska.



A place of worship on a HUGE rock



Some spiral shaped building, quite cool really.



Straights greeted us for the rest of the ride into Durango so pretty uneventful except one driver who tried to bulldoze us off the road, the lady was yelling out in Spanish at us, we were only doing 90km/hr in a 40km/hr zone so we were obviously holding them up.

I reciprocated with the finger for their good effort, they continued to weave in and out of the traffic ahead without making much progress, thus far they are the only nasty Mexicans we have met.

Arriving in Durango one of the ten most dangerous cities in the world (9th) we found our accommodation with a small round the block trip with streets not quite being where they were supposed to, we had to stop and ask directions from some locals and after arm waiving and directions in Spanish we were on our way eventually getting to where we were meant to be.

The previous night we had looked on Google Maps and Google Street View which was a great help as we then knew what we where looking for.



Ulises and William were running late so had a gutter lunch with a bunch of local boys who were fascinated by our bikes, with big smiles they all had turns at sitting on the bikes which was well cool.





They even had a geography lesson on our RTW sticker



Ulises the owner and William a couchsurfer from the UK greeted us, we tried to fit the bikes into Ulises courtyard for safe keeping but the luggage despite being not very wide managed to not fit in by 10 mm, rather then remove the luggage a neighbour from down the street kindly offered her courtyard with plenty of room, we duly accepted this offer.

It was decided that we would head into town for the later afternoon to the centro on the bus, that way we didn’t have to carry our riding gear which made it easier and didn’t have to ride in the traffic.

There was a cafe strip which we noted, Ulises took us for a walking tour of beautiful buildings, churches, shops and stalls, at one of the stalls we bought a bottle of liqueur that was nectarine based flavoured and very sweet bordering on a sticky dessert wine so a real treat.

Some shots of Durango centro











Our impromptu tour took us underground to a mining museum under the city centre, this was very well done, from there we headed to the cable car for a night view of Durango only to find it was out of order....bit of a bumma.









Heavily finished detail on some of the buildings



Rubbish and recycling



It was decided that Tea time was the next plan as it was about 8.00pm, on the way up to the cable car we spotted a burger cart with wood smoke pouring out of the roof and the beautiful smells of cooking meat torturing our hunger sensors so there really was no choice.



On collecting our burgers we walked back into the town square sat down and had a feast we were supposed to have chilly corn on the cob however our monster burgers filled us all up.



The town was lit up beautifully with the lighting looking very cool.







Returning home we cracked open the Liqueur and had a few rounds, Ulises decided not have too many as he had an exam the next morning, actually it turned out to be the next next morning so he dipped out a bit there.

With our day to be had in Durango Ellen and I headed back in centro for more of a look and to go back to the coffee shop we had spotted.

I had a cappuccino which was the best I’ve had since leaving New Zealand, Ellens Americano was the same so pretty cool to have such a treat here in Mexico.



I had a gut cramp and thought it was the coffee assisting things but it turned out to be more than that, thankfully Mc Donalds was only 50 metres away and after two brisk visits there I decided the best looking shop to me was the Farmacia (Pharmacy) to by some stop cramp and bum binder.... perfecto!!!

Ellen got an Icecream and I got some pills..... not fair.

Heading toward home we stopped in the supermarkedo for supplies for the next day on the road to Mazhatlan, the next mission was finding our way back home, we picked a bus and asked the driver and he gave us the thumbs up.

Somewhere in the middle the translation was lost and he stopped outside and Ambulance station, I showed him our piece of paper with the name of where we wanted to go so he carried on, the lady behind him asked if she could have a look too, she discussed it with her mate and the guys behind and beside her so soon the whole bus was in on it.



The bus driver stopped and pointed down a street and everyone else on the bus concurred that we were in the correct place .... not bad for a bunch of dangerous people as it turned out they were all right so we found home base pretty easy.

Ellen did her ride report and we took some more pics.



The alley in Ulises house.



The view from th top



Last but not least Ulises doggy!



When Ulli and William came home we all headed out for tea trying local food combinations, again the food was superb and very cheap costing around $10 New Zealand Dollars to feed three blokes and a chic.

Not once did we feel threatened or have any dodgy dealings, I guess you can always find trouble if you want it but here in the centro there are woman and children out walking so I guess that says something.

All in all Durango gets the big tick yet again from the people who make the place, thank you to Ulises for hosting us and William for being the translator.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:21 PM   #455
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Because of the Drug Wars and high murder rate in those areas. Never travel alone is the safest way.

Overall I find Mexico to be fun and safe. Generally I only go to Baja for the Riding and Fishing.
Agree with that Mexico is fun and safe, the mainland is just a good and the people are great, normal people on the ground are generous and very helpful, like anywhere you will find trouble if you want it.

The day after we left Fresno was that mass killing too so you can choose your poison eh.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:24 PM   #456
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Because they have never been down here and they just believe all the lies from the US medias !!!
In the last 33 years I have been all over Mexico many times and solo , and I never had a problem . I have never heard about a tourist getting killed in Mexico, but I couldn't say the same about Miami .
Put perfectly, we have not felt threatened yet, the military are our mates and the police were very good to us.

See the last post re Fresno, I bought a soldering iron straight across the street!!
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Hola Dos Kiwis,

I agree with Guate Rider, Betitolora and the others who have posted here. Yes, there is violence down here, just as there is everywhere in the world, but as long as you keep your head about you and take the US media with less than a grain of salt, like reading the headlines of the National Inquirer, you'll be alright. The American media are all about sensationalism to appeased the masses of mind numbed, slack jawed, television addicts. Riding at night and staying in dodgy neighborhoods are two things to avoid. You two don't seem like "nightclub types" so I needn't go into that.

Above all, have a great time, enjoy the people and the countries and if you find yourself in central Guerrero in the next week or so, let me know. I've got a room, safe parking, cold beer, mezcal, etc. if you're in need of any or all.

Saludos,

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Heya JD, well put too, we will be down your way but not for another few weeks yet unfortunately, would have great to catch up, are you going to be away?
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:55 AM   #458
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I'll be here in Guerrero until the 28th, then I will drive up to my other project in Guachinango, Jalisco, which is in the mountains about half way between Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta. I have just rented a place there, so have not furnished it as yet, but there is lots of floor space. You are welcome there as well if you happen to be passing through. Safe parking, cold beer, no mezcal, because Jalisco is Tequila country, etc... You can PM me if you get close and if I'm around I'll be glad to host you two.

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Old 11-22-2012, 05:45 PM   #459
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Great stuff guys, really enjoying the report & your cool pics. Good to hear the foot isn't too bad.

We are just getting organised for our next overseas trip... to the South Is for the Dusty Butt in January We've heard lots of stories about real dodgy locals south of the strait but we think it it's probably all media hype like with Mexico

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Old 11-22-2012, 06:35 PM   #460
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Great stuff guys, really enjoying the report & your cool pics. Good to hear the foot isn't too bad.

We are just getting organised for our next overseas trip... to the South Is for the Dusty Butt in January We've heard lots of stories about real dodgy locals south of the strait but we think it it's probably all media hype like with Mexico

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Nah mate it is real ... but most of the bad wackos are riding overseas like in Mexico tho

I will inform the authorities of illegal alien immigrants crashing the SI border so make sure you have your passport.

I will miss this DB and the next DB so that is a bumma, guess I can't complain.

Great to hear from you guys and catch up down the track, enjoy the DB and try and keep the rubber bits down as they are the cheap bits!!!
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:53 AM   #461
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Hey you two, it was really nice meeting you both, Ellen I do hope the foot is doing well and still on the mend...
If you happen to make it back this far north swing by, if there is anything else I can do from here let me know...

here's a Pic of Andi & Ellen doing a little maintenance in 90°



and a few days later getting on the road again (Going South)



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Hey you two, it was really nice meeting you both, Ellen I do hope the foot is doing well and still on the mend...
If you happen to make it back this far north swing by, if there is anything else I can do from here let me know...

here's a Pic of Andi & Ellen doing a little maintenance in 90°


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Heya Jim great meeting you guys too and thank you so much for your help.

We will meet again am sure
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Two Moto Kiwis Trip On Hold

Yesterday Sunday November the 25th Ellen had a huge off on the open road.

I report that she is ok after and ambulance ride, hospital visit and Xrays etc.

She has suffered severe bruising and contusions to leg ankle, right bum cheek and down her back and around her neck, today she can hardly walk, all X rays came out ok.

We are going to lay low for the next few days and formulate a plan B, needless to say this is very much a trip changing event.

Couple of pics from yesterday.

Love to all.











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Old 11-26-2012, 08:27 AM   #464
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Very sorry to hear this.Get well Ellen, I'm glad you can. WTF happened?
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Sorry to hear that. Get well soon Ellen.
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