2wheel drive - Page 4

NortwestRider · 02-03-2012, 06:51 PM

Man I wish I had a single sided swing arm on my bike !!!.

pops · 02-05-2012, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NortwestRider

Man I wish I had a single sided swing arm on my bike !!!.

I would be carful in what you wish for NortwestRider

.

We did a bit of a ride today .With the wife and the dog.
No way he was staying home

. He would not let the wife in the sidecar

so she had to sit behind me for the ride out there
So much better in the sand and mud .
I left it in 2 wheel drive for the 20km ride out to where we play .Great on the gravel roads .TRACTION

Cheers Ian

val. h. · 02-05-2012, 04:13 AM

HaHa! Pops. looks like you've been having some fun there, well done

You just gave me another idea to upgrade my outfit. I've been following this thread and only just realised you're down under. Sidecar on same side as us here in the UK.

This mod would be so much more difficult to do on a US or Europian hack. Unless you have an R1200 with the hollow rear drive, or access 'along with the know how' to a machine shop.

My R80 is lower powered, but it is a mono and would be just as easy to convert. All that's needed now is to work out how to fit a simple reverce box??????

Cheers hope it don't put too much stress on your Paraleaver bearing.

Val.

pops · 10-26-2012, 04:19 PM

A update is needed i think .
My bro has just done a 8000km ride with the sidecar. No problems with the 2 wheel drive .
He said it was great in the soft sand .And made it easy going on some of the muddy roads he went on.
I have just got one of these for the sidecar tail shaft but i am not sure if i will fit it as it seems to be working ok as it is .

Alfa 33 sprint sud awd p4 viscous coupling

The ceramic clutch will have to be fitted soon as the standard one is not working to well now .Very easy to get it to slip .
And yes it still is easy to get stuck .I had to use the winch here .I still need some tyres with grip.

Cheers Ian

Mr. Cob · 10-26-2012, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pops

A update is needed i think .
My bro has just done a 8000km ride with the sidecar. No problems with the 2 wheel drive .
He said it was great in the soft sand .And made it easy going on some of the muddy roads he went on.
I have just got one of these for the sidecar tail shaft but i am not sure if i will fit it as it seems to be working ok as it is .

Alfa 33 sprint sud awd p4 viscous coupling

The ceramic clutch will have to be fitted soon as the standard one is not working to well now .Very easy to get it to slip .
And yes it still is easy to get stuck .I had to use the winch here .I still need some tyres with grip.

Cheers Ian

Howdy Ian,

Love your rig. The trick to riding a sidecar on deep sand is SPEED, I know its hard if you have to navigate between obstacles or make turns. When ever I have to run in deep sand with the Ural I put it into two wheel drive BEFORE getting to the sand, build up speed and keep MOVING, slow down, turn sharp or stop and your stuck.

pops · 11-06-2012, 03:33 AM

You are right there mr Cob ,speed is a good thing in the sand

.
But i think tires with more aggressive tread pattern would also help me in the sand .

Why did i say anything about the clutch needing replacing soon

. It went bang on a ride on the weekend .
Another ride home in the trailer for the sidecar . 65000 km on this clutch .

Cheers Ian

slowpoke69 · 11-25-2012, 09:18 AM

I've been looking at getting an GS1150, and wondering if 2wd was possible with a hack. Mine will be more difficult, as I'm in the US, but more than a little fun!

Mr. Cob · 11-25-2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowpoke69

I've been looking at getting an GS1150, and wondering if 2wd was possible with a hack. Mine will be more difficult, as I'm in the US, but more than a little fun!

Howdy slowpoke69,

Yes its possible, all it takes is MONEY and LOTS of it. I don't recall the name of the company in Germany that builds the setup but I think its around 30K just for the sidecar frame and running gear, then you have to have it shipped, installed and a tub put on it. Someone will be along shortly with photos of this type of setup, they are nice but way to much money for most folks to afford.

Biebs · 11-25-2012, 11:52 AM

65,000 km on clutch you did good!! Is this with the sidecar??

Stock clutch served you well - I would stick with stock clutch. Clutch is a wear item but you did good.

Like the idea of a visocious coupler for 2WD. Could be an all time 2WD system only have a disconnect for highway use.

What did your brother use for his 2WD setup??

pops · 11-25-2012, 05:57 PM

Hi Biebs.
Sorry i should have said it better.
My brother took my sidecar on his 8000km ride as i am still trying to get better after my back op.
The clutch i took out was not well .But like you said 65000km is good for the work it had to do

The 65000km on the clutch was all with the sidecar .
I have just fitted a ceramic clutch that i got made .i am not happy with it .Shutters real bad on take off .
I am hoping it gets better with some more riding .
I am still not sure if i will fit the visocious coupler, as the setup i have is working great .
Just replaced the drive shaft as it was turning in the rubber .I thought it was the clutch slipping until i pulled it down No drive at all in the end

.

Cheers Ian

vortexau · 11-25-2012, 07:01 PM

UK and Australian combination riders seeking this kind of 2WD machining are not limited to just BMWs for this tug of choice!

For those who drive & ride on the RH side, there are other bikes which present a rotating righthand-side rear hub:

. . . some even marketed by BMW!

IsAnOzzie · 11-26-2012, 03:51 AM

Mr Cob, is it Mobec you are thinking of?

http://mobec-international.com/techn...ive/index.html

Mr. Cob · 11-26-2012, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IsAnOzzie

Mr Cob, is it Mobec you are thinking of?

http://mobec-international.com/techn...ive/index.html

Howdy IsAnOzzie,

Yup, thats it, wonderful piece of kit if you can afford it.

twintwin · 11-26-2012, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cob

Howdy IsAnOzzie,

Yup, thats it, wonderful piece of kit if you can afford it.

You could ask feedback to Murphy who get the 2WD Mobec a couple months ago.
He has very details writtings and pictures on the 2WD built on his website.
http://wherethehellismurph.blogspot....&by-date=false

BeemerChef · 11-26-2012, 03:25 PM

2WD?... and reverse?
What's wrong with the Ural?

I know... I know... [but there is already a thread for that].

Ara and Spirit

02-03-2012, 06:51 PM	#46
NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !! Joined: May 2008 Location: 3.7 miles North of Hell...SEATTLE.... Oddometer: 2,346	Man I wish I had a single sided swing arm on my bike !!!. __________________ 2012 Honda NC700X..THE SILVER BULLIT 1982 GS850G..BLACK SUNSHINE..The tripod !! GS500PE..THE PURPLE EXPLORER So what your saying is that I have the worst hack AND a smelly wife??. MY BUILD http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=657673&page=6

02-05-2012, 04:13 AM	#48
val. h. On the wrong planet Joined: Nov 2007 Location: UK. North Wilts'ish Oddometer: 118	HaHa! Pops. looks like you've been having some fun there, well done You just gave me another idea to upgrade my outfit. I've been following this thread and only just realised you're down under. Sidecar on same side as us here in the UK. This mod would be so much more difficult to do on a US or Europian hack. Unless you have an R1200 with the hollow rear drive, or access 'along with the know how' to a machine shop. My R80 is lower powered, but it is a mono and would be just as easy to convert. All that's needed now is to work out how to fit a simple reverce box?????? Cheers hope it don't put too much stress on your Paraleaver bearing. Val. __________________ The land you visit may be a beautiful place with extraordinary views and heavenly skyes, but it's the people of the land that make it truly worthwhile returning time and time again. Ay! and the roads need to be bloody good too

11-25-2012, 09:18 AM	#52
slowpoke69 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2010 Location: So. Jersey Oddometer: 314	Love it! I've been looking at getting an GS1150, and wondering if 2wd was possible with a hack. Mine will be more difficult, as I'm in the US, but more than a little fun!

11-25-2012, 11:52 AM	#54
Biebs BMW Airhead Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Cave Creek AZ Oddometer: 234	65,000 km on clutch 65,000 km on clutch you did good!! Is this with the sidecar?? Stock clutch served you well - I would stick with stock clutch. Clutch is a wear item but you did good. Like the idea of a visocious coupler for 2WD. Could be an all time 2WD system only have a disconnect for highway use. What did your brother use for his 2WD setup?? __________________ Airhead 1974 R75/6 & 1989 R100GS

11-25-2012, 07:01 PM	#56
vortexau Outside the Pod-bay Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Just off the Warrego, S.E. Queensland Oddometer: 1,431	UK and Australian combination riders seeking this kind of 2WD machining are not limited to just BMWs for this tug of choice! For those who drive & ride on the RH side, there are other bikes which present a rotating righthand-side rear hub: . . . some even marketed by BMW! __________________ '77 BMW R100RS with Ural chair '08 Suzuki AN650A Burgman (and trailer)

10-26-2012, 04:19 PM	#49
pops ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Location: Stirling North South Australia Oddometer: 1,403	A update is needed i think . My bro has just done a 8000km ride with the sidecar. No problems with the 2 wheel drive . He said it was great in the soft sand .And made it easy going on some of the muddy roads he went on. I have just got one of these for the sidecar tail shaft but i am not sure if i will fit it as it seems to be working ok as it is . Alfa 33 sprint sud awd p4 viscous coupling The ceramic clutch will have to be fitted soon as the standard one is not working to well now .Very easy to get it to slip . And yes it still is easy to get stuck .I had to use the winch here .I still need some tyres with grip. Cheers Ian

11-06-2012, 03:33 AM	#51
pops ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Location: Stirling North South Australia Oddometer: 1,403	You are right there mr Cob ,speed is a good thing in the sand . But i think tires with more aggressive tread pattern would also help me in the sand . Why did i say anything about the clutch needing replacing soon . It went bang on a ride on the weekend . Another ride home in the trailer for the sidecar . 65000 km on this clutch . Cheers Ian

11-25-2012, 05:57 PM	#55
pops ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Location: Stirling North South Australia Oddometer: 1,403	Hi Biebs. Sorry i should have said it better. My brother took my sidecar on his 8000km ride as i am still trying to get better after my back op. The clutch i took out was not well .But like you said 65000km is good for the work it had to do The 65000km on the clutch was all with the sidecar . I have just fitted a ceramic clutch that i got made .i am not happy with it .Shutters real bad on take off . I am hoping it gets better with some more riding . I am still not sure if i will fit the visocious coupler, as the setup i have is working great . Just replaced the drive shaft as it was turning in the rubber .I thought it was the clutch slipping until i pulled it down No drive at all in the end . Cheers Ian

11-26-2012, 03:51 AM	#57
IsAnOzzie Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2008 Oddometer: 260	Mr Cob, is it Mobec you are thinking of? http://mobec-international.com/techn...ive/index.html __________________ The Extinguished gentleman. Do or do not. There is no try. Yoda

11-26-2012, 03:25 PM	#60
BeemerChef Wandering Homeless Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Living under the Stars... Oddometer: 3,204	2WD?... and reverse? What's wrong with the Ural? I know... I know... [but there is already a thread for that]. Ara and Spirit __________________ Our Journal "The Oasis of my Soul" "One-Pan Recipe" eStore, outdoors, indoors... Smugmug, the Photos

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