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Old 11-27-2012, 06:26 AM   #54646
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I find it a bit amusing that so many are trying to convince me to get a WRR (mostly those who own one). Are you guys working on commission for Yamaha parts sales now or something?
It's a better bike, I think we all know that, so I asked you why you hadn't considered it. You answered cost and availability. Both were easily addressed.

I can't help ya with wanting to be different. You should buy a Beta RR if that's your thing...cause they are red, awesome bikes, and nobody has one round these parts.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:34 AM   #54647
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So why not put USD forks and a FCR on a stock framed XR400?

I have never owned an aluminum framed bike so I have no clue what the draw is. The CRF's I've ridden have never given me that "I need a recycled beer can for a frame" feeling.

Should have never sold my XR400
Same as with a mountain bike...flex and weight (although the weight thing is theoretical...can easily be just as heavy). Not as important as the suspension, but I like the rigidity for offroad.

Plus the CRF frame gives you easy options for top-shelf suspension front and back, and all the trick parts that go along with it.

Sort of the same idea as the CRF500 Service Honda's...but with a big reliable airhead instead of the smoker power plant.

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Old 11-27-2012, 08:11 AM   #54648
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Same as with a mountain bike...flex
Flex? Have you even ridden the last generation XR's? (96+) I put 3 years on a 97 400 and a 99 250 and flex was never an issue, even for my 200 pound ass and that was racing, not trail riding.

Drew Smith at Works Enduro Rider will suspend that XR so nicely, you'll go faster longer.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:55 AM   #54649
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I find it a bit amusing that so many are trying to convince me to get a WRR (mostly those who own one). Are you guys working on commission for Yamaha parts sales now or something?
Ain't no convincing, I don't think anyone here cares what you get or don't get.

By your own admission you feel the WR is a superior bike to the Honda, cost is the only factor. Owners are telling you that there are used ones available and the cost of a good used one is going to be lower right out of the gate that a new Honda.

If there are none local, hell, look elsewhere. Ohio is close to everything, and I'd even be willing to make a road trip on your behalf and trailer something back for you if you don't have the time to do it.

Alan's used WR was $2200, mine was $3400, a few other people have listed prices between $3000 - 4000. A quick look on wrrforum shows several in the $3-4k range, granted, in NC, SC, and other states.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:57 AM   #54650
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Flex? Have you even ridden the last generation XR's? (96+) I put 3 years on a 97 400 and a 99 250 and flex was never an issue, even for my 200 pound ass and that was racing, not trail riding.

Drew Smith at Works Enduro Rider will suspend that XR so nicely, you'll go faster longer.
All steel frames flex, whether or not you feel it is neither here nor there. A well designed frame flexes in accordance with the suspension, minimally, and feels planted; a poorly designed frame flexes and opposes the suspension, and that is an ill-handling bike or one whose suspension will be harder to manage or to feel consistent.

The XR's frame is a probably a decent one, but all things being equal and drawing up a dream bike, I'd prefer aluminum for the isolation of the suspension and the reasons I stated - easier/better parts and top-shelf stuff rather than grafting stuff on to the XR's frame.

It's all hypothetical anyway, but there's a reason aluminum is used in offroad bikes.

You can prefer steel frames, companies and riders do, everything's a compromise...and a personal choice.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:01 AM   #54651
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250's are for pussies or 90lb women.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:13 AM   #54652
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All frames flex, whether or not you feel it is neither here nor there. A well designed frame flexes in accordance with the suspension, minimally, and feels planted; a poorly designed frame flexes and opposes the suspension, and that is an ill-handling bike or one whose suspension will be harder to manage or to feel consistent. This is true for Aluminum and Steel frames.

It's all hypothetical anyway, but there's got to be a reason aluminum is used in Japanese offroad bikes.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:18 AM   #54653
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250's are for pussies or 90lb women.
so which one am I?

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Old 11-27-2012, 10:51 AM   #54654
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That's a cool old Husqvarna.

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Old 11-27-2012, 11:50 AM   #54655
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so which one am I?
A poser, your helmet doesn't even match your bike or gear



So when we riding? I should be good for Sunday
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:53 AM   #54656
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250's are for pussies or 90lb women.


How about a 90 kilo man?


ok, I am what I eat, I'm a pussy
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:56 AM   #54657
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Whitey, MGorman, you're killing me down here.


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Old 11-27-2012, 12:35 PM   #54658
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A poser, your helmet doesn't even match your bike or gear



So when we riding? I should be good for Sunday
where / when?
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:31 PM   #54659
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whitey, mgorman, you're killing me down here.

Dear abby.....

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Old 11-27-2012, 01:35 PM   #54660
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Whitey, MGorman, you're killing me down here.


That's classic GCMK!

But obviously he needs to take it back to the dealer.

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