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Old 11-29-2012, 07:38 PM   #541
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fucking assholes in mullholand cannot drive for fucking shit

and the ones on bikes cannot fathom parking away from the roadway
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:07 AM   #542
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Not Mulholland but this has to suck

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Old 12-02-2012, 04:58 PM   #543
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Man I wonder what the back story to that clip is. Shooting a commercial? Showing off while a friend filmed? The camera person was in exactly the correct position, correct angle, correct lighting, correct zoom and focus....wasn't a coincidence. Also love to how bad the sailboat and rider were damaged.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:07 PM   #544
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fucking assholes in mullholand cannot drive for fucking shit

and the ones on bikes cannot fathom parking away from the roadway
I am just wondering, what is everybody's opinion on this.

It is generally accepted that cars can outcorner bikes right? Like on a racetrack where you have full use of the lane.

But what about on a public road, standard width lane? Do you think bikes especially sportbikes can take corners at higher speeds than cars, IF they both have to stay fully within their lane?

I see a lot of cars not just here, but also deals gap, and other places that cannot seem to take a corner at a decent speed, while maintaining proper lane position, and a lot of these are sport cars too, Miata's, Camaro's, 350Z's etc...

I think a bike can go faster in general since he can move around within his lane.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:53 PM   #545
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I am just wondering, what is everybody's opinion on this.

It is generally accepted that cars can outcorner bikes right? Like on a racetrack where you have full use of the lane.

But what about on a public road, standard width lane? Do you think bikes especially sportbikes can take corners at higher speeds than cars, IF they both have to stay fully within their lane?

I see a lot of cars not just here, but also deals gap, and other places that cannot seem to take a corner at a decent speed, while maintaining proper lane position, and a lot of these are sport cars too, Miata's, Camaro's, 350Z's etc...

I think a bike can go faster in general since he can move around within his lane.


I would think that a lot of drivers cut over the line a bit because they're afraid of the intensity of pushing the limit in the set curve
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:23 PM   #546
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Too many people in the wrong lane OMG WTF people....
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:32 PM   #547
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I think a bike can go faster in general since he can move around within his lane.
I still think 4 wheels > 2 wheels when it comes to lateral grip. You just see cars out of their lane more because the penalty isn't as high for screwing up un a cage.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:19 PM   #548
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I still think 4 wheels > 2 wheels when it comes to lateral grip. You just see cars out of their lane more because the penalty isn't as high for screwing up un a cage.
I see your point and do agree that cages have more lateral grip, and the penalty is not as high.

I am basically saying since the average cage is 6' wide and the average bike 2', the bike has 8' to play with in a 10' wide lane where as the cage has 4' and the bike can therefore use that space to straighten the corners a little, which is what the cage wants to do, but can't without coming out of his lane, so he has to stay pretty much on a fixed track.

So with that in mind I am saying the bike can carry more speed into and thru the corner. My opinion of course!

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Old 12-02-2012, 08:31 PM   #549
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Man I wonder what the back story to that clip is. Shooting a commercial? Showing off while a friend filmed? The camera person was in exactly the correct position, correct angle, correct lighting, correct zoom and focus....wasn't a coincidence. Also love to how bad the sailboat and rider were damaged.


Good point.

Doubt it was set up as a stunt though...

Sailboat is fine; the bike hit the dock.

Wonder how the bike fared?

Back in the oughts I lived on my sailboat for 4 years in Cali and Vangroovey, and parked above my boat.

I did get my bike down onto the dock, but I used the ramp...
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:36 PM   #550
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It seems to be shot at least semi-pro. Fluid head tripod, and good camera. I don't know what they were trying to do, but I bet that was not it.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:00 PM   #551
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Not Mulholland but this has to suck

Look very closely at the bike- 2013 FJR. What I've read is it's a french moto journo, having a very, very bad day.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:30 PM   #552
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Look very closely at the bike- 2013 FJR. What I've read is it's a french moto journo, having a very, very bad day.
I did something similar on my KLR once..



..hit a rock that looked like a bush on the side of the trail. Tore the fully loaded saddle bag off and I nearly rode off the other side of the trail down the embankment and into the trees.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:34 PM   #553
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Look very closely at the bike- 2013 FJR. What I've read is it's a french moto journo, having a very, very bad day.
Yup.

"Le journaliste préféré des fans de Moto Journal a chuté dans le Port de Saint Martin pendant un tournage au guidon d'un FJR. Il s'en sort avec seulement un pouce luxé et quelques hématomes."

It says he hurt his thumb, and got a few bruises.

His ego probably suffered the most.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:38 AM   #554
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Well, that'll teach ya to pull the bags off before trying to ride on the docks...
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:39 AM   #555
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I see your point and do agree that cages have more lateral grip, and the penalty is not as high.

I am basically saying since the average cage is 6' wide and the average bike 2', the bike has 8' to play with in a 10' wide lane where as the cage has 4' and the bike can therefore use that space to straighten the corners a little, which is what the cage wants to do, but can't without coming out of his lane, so he has to stay pretty much on a fixed track.

So with that in mind I am saying the bike can carry more speed into and thru the corner. My opinion of course!
I read a 'shootout' in a moto journal years ago putting a then current sportbike up against, IIRC, a Corvette. The bike won the braking, acceleration (OK, physicists out there - it won just acceleration) but the 'vette had the corners.

I find it tough to believe that today's street legal automobiles would prevail over the hottest street legal bikes, though.
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