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Old 11-25-2012, 02:42 PM   #1
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Pennzoil safe for wet clutch?

Any reason for me not to use Pennzoil 10-40 for my first oil change (Super Tenere).

http://www.pennzoil.com/motor-oil/pe...Specifications

I checked the API donut and it doesn't say 'energy conserving' so I assume it is safe for wet-clutch bikes.

Autozone has 5.5 qts jug plus the Bosch 3300 filter for $24.

I'll switch to full synth at 2K, but I like to run dino for break in.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:45 PM   #2
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I'd do it. I've run many different types of 10w40 dino oils in my wet clutch HD primary with no problems.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:51 PM   #3
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For the love of all that's sacred, why wouldn't you use a MOTORCYCLE specific oil and be sure the anti-wear addatives your EXPENSIVE engine needs are contained therein? You'd seriously skimp on $10 difference in the price of 4 qts. of oil for a $15,000 bike? http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mcf.aspx Dino is NOT NEEDED for break-in any longer. Modern cylinder bores are finely finished, ready to roll.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:59 PM   #4
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Any reason for me not to use Pennzoil 10-40 for my first oil change (Super Tenere).
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So I guess the reason for you not to use that oil is that your bike is sacred.....
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:04 PM   #5
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i would use a motorcycle oil for sure, i feel a lot better with the additives in the mc oil for you cam and rockers. i used car oil in one of my bikes and changed the oil every 1,000 miles and the cam and rockers were shot at 40,000 miles. dont know if it was the regular oil but it was enough for me to pay the extra 2 dollars per oil change form now on.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:14 AM   #6
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For the love of all that's sacred, why wouldn't you use a MOTORCYCLE specific oil and be sure the anti-wear addatives your EXPENSIVE engine needs are contained therein? You'd seriously skimp on $10 difference in the price of 4 qts. of oil for a $15,000 bike? http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mcf.aspx Dino is NOT NEEDED for break-in any longer. Modern cylinder bores are finely finished, ready to roll.

The answer to your whine is that Delo 400 and Rotella T work just dandy in MOTORCYCLE powerplants. They already have the right additives to keep gearboxes and wet clutches happy. About 10 bucks a gallon, so you'll save more than 20 clams, not 10.

Seriously.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:35 AM   #7
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It will be fine. I've run Castrol dino 10-40 in both of my bikes at one point.

However -- I switched to synthetic motorcycle oil because both bikes shift a LOT better with it in there. The shifting was crunchy and clunky and imprecise running generic dino oil. I'd consider using motorcycle oil just for that if I were in your shoes. But if you can't afford it at the moment, the Pennzoil will not hurt anything.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:48 AM   #8
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I'd bet that the oil in question does have friction modifiers (bad for wet clutch) since it is rated API "SN". If you're going to use a automotive oil, use a diesel oil. One with a "C" as the first letter of it's rating. The Delo 400 and Rotella fall into this class since they are diesel oils.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:14 AM   #9
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I was under the impression you "should" use an oil that is JASO certified at minimum for your bike with wet clutch.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:05 PM   #10
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If the API logo says energy conserving that will have the friction modifiers. If the field is empty it doesn't.

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Old 11-27-2012, 08:53 PM   #11
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If the API logo says energy conserving that will have the friction modifiers. If the field is empty it doesn't.

Apparently this has changed recently with the introduction of the SN API type.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:07 PM   #12
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I beleive that anything into the 40's weight will be fine. Conventional or syn.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:24 PM   #13
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"I beleive that anything into the 40's weight will be fine. Conventional or syn"
True. The stuff-that-is-to-be-feared is NOT used in 40 wt and higher.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:06 PM   #14
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"I beleive that anything into the 40's weight will be fine. Conventional or syn"
True. The stuff-that-is-to-be-feared is NOT used in 40 wt and higher.

Yep...most oils containing energy conserving friction modifiers (or whatevs) are used in x-30 weights and below. This is a big part of the reason almost all new cars these days specify a 5-30 or 5-20 oil -- to cut operating friction and eke out more fuel mileage!

YMMV...
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:50 PM   #15
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"I beleive that anything into the 40's weight will be fine. Conventional or syn"
True. The stuff-that-is-to-be-feared is NOT used in 40 wt and higher.

Not always true..........when this came up prior it was found that 15w-50 Mobil 1 had friction modifiers as per Mobil tech support and not suitable for wet clutches.
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