950 Supermoto Chronicles - Page 538

preppypyro · 12-03-2012, 11:35 AM

Thanks guys, thats sort of what I thought as well. Does pretty much the same thing as it would on a car rim. Wasnt sure how wide our rims were VS a smaller duke or whatever, so i also wasnt sure if they just threw a tad wider of a tire on our rims, and the rims on our bikes were the same as the smaller dukes and whatnot.

Idle · 12-03-2012, 11:42 AM

I've worn out 2 distanzias in the 160/60-17 flavor. It is a softer supermoto compound in that size. I got about 2k miles out of this one.

IMO one of the reasons a supermoto wears out tires quickly is because of the engine braking a thumper has.

A little bit of pavement use on my 18" D606 showed typical wear on the leading edge of the knobs as you'd expect. But the back of the knobs was rounded off equally as much as the front. I hardly even use the rear brake so I know it's the engine braking that caused that specific wear. On a street tire I'd have never seen hard evidence of wear from engine braking.

Sorry, got sidetracked.

I'd think a distanzia 160 on a 5.5" rim would be fine. It is a heavy tire and it's wider than most 160's by a fair margin. It measured (iirc), 167mm mounted on a 5" Behr rim. That's pretty close to 170, a tire that surely fits a 5.5" rim. Lemme look on my photobucket for sidewall pic.

I took almost an 1/8" off the edges of this tire with a block plane and using dish soap for lube. I had serious clearance issues with the chain and swingarm. The pilot power 160 fit great with no modifications whatsoever. I didn't need a chain block with the pp's, had no chain rub at all, but it was mandatory with the distanzia. Did I mention it's a wide tire?

160/60-17 distanzia on a 5" rim. (with trimmed sidewall)

Hope that helps..

angustoyou · 12-03-2012, 12:15 PM

The standard tyres sizes are not numbers plucked out of the air.

Worst mistake I made was fitting some sticky rubber to a bike before my annual biking holiday at the Isle of Man TT races. My tyre size wasn't made in the proper sticky ones, so I went up a size. Slowed the steering at all speeds, and damn near spat me off (and I guy I was riding that section with) when it started into a nasty weave on Quarry bends. It was absolutely hopeless at anything over a ton, and pretty useless at anything under. Ruined the riding bit of the holiday for me.

Taught me a lesson, that's for sure. Hope it helps someone else.

doctor_big · 12-04-2012, 05:16 AM

Just squeaked 260km / 156mi out of a tank. 36km of that was with the fuel light on. The bike then took 16l of gas, and the capacity is 17.5l so that's pretty damn good range. The most I've got out of a tank. Need I say that I'm running stock gearing?

Jason

nattyMo · 12-04-2012, 05:19 PM

Not to many that offer bars in Carbon Fiber. Two mfg's that I know of. If you want an alloy bar you sure do have several more choices.

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Originally Posted by corndog67

You guys are kinda trapping yourselves into a couple different brands of hanebars, when in reality there are many, many more brands. ProTaper, Answer, Rental, just get a dirt bike magazine and check them out, probably at least 50 different bends for your viewing pleasure.
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Just saying, don't limit your choices.

BuckMoto · 12-05-2012, 08:11 AM

Quick question: Is increased clutch pull stiffness after riding a while a sign that the Magura blood needs replacing or would it be something else?

gallinastrips · 12-05-2012, 12:21 PM

Loe Vince pipe question. Just put new to me Leo Vince cans and Y pipe on, voltage regulator and shock spring are getting really hot to the touch! Anyone have problems with parts getting fried from to hot of aftermarket Y pipe? Stock has heat shield but Leo does not

snowhawk jockey · 12-05-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gallinastrips

Loe Vince pipe question. Just put new to me Leo Vince cans and Y pipe on, voltage regulator and shock spring are getting really hot to the touch! Anyone have problems with parts getting fried from to hot of aftermarket Y pipe? Stock has heat shield but Leo does not

Know of two guys running Leo stuff on SM's and others with unshielded pipes at that point, but haven't heard of RegRec getting smoked. Weld a nut onto the pipe, at a point where you could bolt up the stock shield again. Keeps ya from thinking about the problem, even if it turns out not to be one...

snowhawk jockey · 12-05-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckMoto

Quick question: Is increased clutch pull stiffness after riding a while a sign that the Magura blood needs replacing or would it be something else?

Curious to see what the word is on this question! My understanding is that it is the opposite feeling, clutch going soft, but am here to learn! I was thinking I had some basket wear, but maybe it is just time for fresh blood?

wpbarlow · 12-05-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by snowhawk jockey

Curious to see what the word is on this question! My understanding is that it is the opposite feeling, clutch going soft, ...

That's what happened to me when mine failed. Logical when you think about it; fluid escaping past the oring.

Thumper996 · 12-05-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wpbarlow

That's what happened to me when mine failed. Logical when you think about it; fluid escaping past the oring.

I found an acceptable o-ring replacement at Ace Hardware and ran it for several hundred miles with no issue until i upgraded the slave cylinder. O-ring was just a few dollars and quick fix.

nattyMo · 12-06-2012, 11:33 AM

I've been through 2 VR's. Upgraded to a Rick's Mosfet VR and moved it to the LH side of the airbox.

http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/...dLVE05NTBTTVI=

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Originally Posted by gallinastrips

Loe Vince pipe question. Just put new to me Leo Vince cans and Y pipe on, voltage regulator and shock spring are getting really hot to the touch! Anyone have problems with parts getting fried from to hot of aftermarket Y pipe? Stock has heat shield but Leo does not

nattyMo · 12-06-2012, 11:37 AM

May be time for a look at the clutch slave. You can simply unbolt it from the side of the engine without draining it to check for leaks. When's the last time you changed the fluid? The slave may be gummed up causing the increase in effort.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckMoto

Quick question: Is increased clutch pull stiffness after riding a while a sign that the Magura blood needs replacing or would it be something else?

900rider · 12-06-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattyMo

I've been through 2 VR's. Upgraded to a Rick's Mosfet VR and moved it to the LH side of the airbox.

http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/...dLVE05NTBTTVI=

God damn your bike is clean

angustoyou · 12-06-2012, 01:41 PM

Takes about 10 minutes to flush new oil through the clutch. Try it and see. I change mine every oil change, while the oils draining out.

12-03-2012, 11:35 AM	#8056
preppypyro Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Canada's Best Kept Secret, Saskatchewan Oddometer: 453	Thanks guys, thats sort of what I thought as well. Does pretty much the same thing as it would on a car rim. Wasnt sure how wide our rims were VS a smaller duke or whatever, so i also wasnt sure if they just threw a tad wider of a tire on our rims, and the rims on our bikes were the same as the smaller dukes and whatnot. preppypyro screwed with this post 12-03-2012 at 11:46 AM

12-04-2012, 05:16 AM	#8059
doctor_big It hurts when I fall down Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Oddometer: 587	Just squeaked 260km / 156mi out of a tank. 36km of that was with the fuel light on. The bike then took 16l of gas, and the capacity is 17.5l so that's pretty damn good range. The most I've got out of a tank. Need I say that I'm running stock gearing? Jason __________________ Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

12-05-2012, 08:11 AM	#8061
BuckMoto Adventure Napping Joined: Aug 2010 Location: Wichita, KS Oddometer: 239	Clutch Pull Quick question: Is increased clutch pull stiffness after riding a while a sign that the Magura blood needs replacing or would it be something else? __________________ -Buck

12-05-2012, 12:21 PM	#8062
gallinastrips Studly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Taos NM Oddometer: 575	Loe Vince pipe question. Just put new to me Leo Vince cans and Y pipe on, voltage regulator and shock spring are getting really hot to the touch! Anyone have problems with parts getting fried from to hot of aftermarket Y pipe? Stock has heat shield but Leo does not __________________ RIDE ON

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12-03-2012, 11:42 AM	#8057
Idle Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Northern California Oddometer: 411	I've worn out 2 distanzias in the 160/60-17 flavor. It is a softer supermoto compound in that size. I got about 2k miles out of this one. IMO one of the reasons a supermoto wears out tires quickly is because of the engine braking a thumper has. A little bit of pavement use on my 18" D606 showed typical wear on the leading edge of the knobs as you'd expect. But the back of the knobs was rounded off equally as much as the front. I hardly even use the rear brake so I know it's the engine braking that caused that specific wear. On a street tire I'd have never seen hard evidence of wear from engine braking. Sorry, got sidetracked. I'd think a distanzia 160 on a 5.5" rim would be fine. It is a heavy tire and it's wider than most 160's by a fair margin. It measured (iirc), 167mm mounted on a 5" Behr rim. That's pretty close to 170, a tire that surely fits a 5.5" rim. Lemme look on my photobucket for sidewall pic. I took almost an 1/8" off the edges of this tire with a block plane and using dish soap for lube. I had serious clearance issues with the chain and swingarm. The pilot power 160 fit great with no modifications whatsoever. I didn't need a chain block with the pp's, had no chain rub at all, but it was mandatory with the distanzia. Did I mention it's a wide tire? 160/60-17 distanzia on a 5" rim. (with trimmed sidewall) Hope that helps..

12-03-2012, 12:15 PM	#8058
angustoyou Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Oddometer: 19	The standard tyres sizes are not numbers plucked out of the air. Worst mistake I made was fitting some sticky rubber to a bike before my annual biking holiday at the Isle of Man TT races. My tyre size wasn't made in the proper sticky ones, so I went up a size. Slowed the steering at all speeds, and damn near spat me off (and I guy I was riding that section with) when it started into a nasty weave on Quarry bends. It was absolutely hopeless at anything over a ton, and pretty useless at anything under. Ruined the riding bit of the holiday for me. Taught me a lesson, that's for sure. Hope it helps someone else.

12-06-2012, 01:41 PM	#8070
angustoyou Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Oddometer: 19	Takes about 10 minutes to flush new oil through the clutch. Try it and see. I change mine every oil change, while the oils draining out.