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Old 12-03-2012, 06:08 PM   #1
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Just Changed My Plans, Now Not Heading Back Through Mexico, How to Cancel TVIP?

Howdy--

I recently came through Mexico, and I did not cancel my TVIP, as I was going to use it on the back side when I came back through. However now, I am in Costa Rica, and I have decided to continue on to South America--and as such I will not be heading back to Mexico--and I will therefore not be able to cancel my TVIP.

Does anyone know if there is an alternative method of canceling the Mexico TVIP from a different country?

Thanks!

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Old 12-03-2012, 06:40 PM   #2
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There is no other way to do it , just on the border .
If you don't cancel it , you not only loose your $400.00 deposit but you also will not be able to go back to Mexico with any other vehicle registered in your name .
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:57 PM   #3
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Seems to me I've heard of people trying to do this at consulates. I can't remember the outcome, but surely it's worth a try.

Now that the TIP deposit has grown so large, the consequences for changing your mind are severe. You make a compelling case for canceling on exit and buying a new one upon return.

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Old 12-06-2012, 11:08 AM   #4
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Seems to me I've heard of people trying to do this at consulates. I can't remember the outcome, but surely it's worth a try. Mark
When trying to cross back into USA at Tecate in March we were advised there was no TVIP office and would have to go to Mexicali, Tijuana or any Consulate.

Chose Tijuana for instant refund but Imigration offical insisted a Consulate would work ???
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:57 AM   #5
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Two friends of mine tried to do it in the Mexican Embassy in Guatemala and there was no way . And both were locals,fluid in Spanish and familiar with local negotiating strategies
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:30 AM   #6
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Occasionally the Mexican Consulates in the US (Dallas, LA, Chicago) have a temp program to cancel these. But if you don`t cancel within the period allowed, like GR says, you loose the money and have to cancel before bringing another vehicle into the country.

Call Jorge Duran at the central offices in Mexico City and ask him. He always answers the tough questions for me and is a good guy!


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Old 12-17-2012, 05:09 AM   #7
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you can cancel via courier

I cancelled my tvip by returning it to the banjercito office. Email them, a fellow named Gerd has been most helpful. He had me return the permit dhl, when it arrived at banjercito he emailed me when the permit was cancelled and refund issued.
A buddy did the same when his bike broke and he swapped bikes, cancelled one tvip and got another. one has to be cancelled before another can be issued to the same person.

you have to return it before the effective date. if the date of entry into Mexico on the tvip has passed, might be a different story. in any event banjercito folks were very helpful.

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Old 12-17-2012, 09:25 AM   #8
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you have to return it before the effective date.
Right. Which is why this advice isn't going to help the OP, who is in Costa Rica now after passing through Mexico with said TVIP.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:21 AM   #9
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Howdy--

I recently came through Mexico, and I did not cancel my TVIP, as I was going to use it on the back side when I came back through. However now, I am in Costa Rica, and I have decided to continue on to South America--and as such I will not be heading back to Mexico--and I will therefore not be able to cancel my TVIP.

Does anyone know if there is an alternative method of canceling the Mexico TVIP from a different country?

Thanks!

I have been researching TVIP for Mexico also....maybe this will be useful?

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Mexico TVIP Problem Solved
Been getting my TVIPs at the Tex-Mex border for 7-8 years now. It's never taken more than 15-20 minutes at the Colombia Bridge crossing near Laredo. Last spring I took Tricepilot's advice and applied for my TVIP online at:

http://www.banjercito.com.mx/site/im...ionesIITV.html

This is SOP for me now as I like minimizing time and hassle for my border crossings. Who doesn't?

Well, it came time to apply for a new TVIP to return to Mexico City for Christmas and lo and behold I was denied! Reason given on the Banjercito web site was the failure to register the required documents with the TVIP I received last April. I still had the email with attached files I had sent to their email address as well as the confirmation reply I received the very next day. So I resent everything with a kind and respectful note. I never got any reply back.

Long story short:

The Mexican Consulate in Austin gave me this email address for resolving vehicle permit issues with Banjercito:

permisovehiculos@banjercito.com.mx

And this phone number to reach Banjercito in Mexico City (from the US):

011-52-55-53-28-2305

I opted to call and the young lady was very very professional. You will need to ask for someone who speaks English if you don't speak Spanish. I gave her the TVIP number and she had it up on her computer screen in seconds. There had been a rare failure on the bank's part to register the docs after receiving them and she had my passport number unlocked by the next morning so I could proceed with the new application. Total talk time was about 5 minutes.

Lessons learned:

1. keep an on-line record of all correspondence with Banjercito along with the required PDF/JPEG documents for easy resend. This cut my hassle time way down.

2. keep your hard copy receipt when you turn in your TVIP at the border (I'll be scanning it in to file with my other PDFs). This is your only proof that you actually returned the vehicle, in case that's in question. If you get your TVIP at the border be sure to have your previous TVIP receipt, required docs and printed correspondence with you so you have a shot at problem solving at the Banjercito window.

3. before resending req'd docs by email or registered mail ($25+ from Austin), call the Mexico City number and ask them to look up your TVIP number (found on your scanned copy that you sent them) and explain the issue to you.

4. be very polite and appreciative of their efforts to help but also be a bit assertive to avoid getting a runaround. They wanted me to resend everything after admitting their error and I politely asserted that I had already done my part - twice. That got it done.

Although this was my first online TVIP experience and it did produce a hassle I'm going to continue using it as I would rather encounter and resolve a problem from the comfort of my home than after a 250-300 mile ride to the border. Especially now that I'm equipped with their phone number. I'll also begin the process 3 weeks in advance of departure to allow more time to resolve any issues.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:29 PM   #10
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Thanks, advdave. I just arrived in Colombia after my passage on the S/V Independence. On a side note, Cartagena is rad.

In any event, I think I may have figured out a solution--well, hopefully. I am flying back to Belize to meet my wife for Christmas, as given that my original plan entailed me riding back through Belize to meet her (and then ride with her up to Cancun for her flight home), I now must fly back to Belize from Cartagena (tomorrow). My wife and I are still planning on working our way up to Cancun for her flight out on January 3rd, so I'm going to bring my TVIP along and see if I can't sweet talk the Banjercito folks to cancel my TVIP for me--even though the bike will be in Colombia. As proof that I still own the bike and did not sell it in Mexico, I am going to show them all of my Central American and Colombia aduana paperwork, which hopefully will be enough to prove to them that I took the bike out of Mexico.

However, in the event that this does not work (which I am having a hard time believing that it won't), I will fall back to the route you have proposed, which also appears reasonable.

At the end of the day, I have until April 3, 2013 to solve this problem, which even if I have to go the courier route shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks again for your help...I'll update everyone on how things turn out.



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I cancelled my tvip by returning it to the banjercito office. Email them, a fellow named Gerd has been most helpful. He had me return the permit dhl, when it arrived at banjercito he emailed me when the permit was cancelled and refund issued.
A buddy did the same when his bike broke and he swapped bikes, cancelled one tvip and got another. one has to be cancelled before another can be issued to the same person.

you have to return it before the effective date. if the date of entry into Mexico on the tvip has passed, might be a different story. in any event banjercito folks were very helpful.

good luck.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:29 PM   #11
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My wife and I are still planning on working our way up to Cancun for her flight out on January 3rd, so I'm going to bring my TVIP along and see if I can't sweet talk the Banjercito folks to cancel my TVIP for me--even though the bike will be in Colombia.

As proof that I still own the bike and did not sell it in Mexico, I am going to show them all of my Central American and Colombia aduana paperwork, which hopefully will be enough to prove to them that I took the bike out of Mexico.

However, in the event that this does not work (which I am having a hard time believing that it won't), I will fall back to the route you have proposed, which also appears reasonable.
Good luck with this. I do not think you will be successful. Once the valid period of the TVIP begins, to effect a cancellation, both you and the bike need to be present before the aduana official.

A typical official, spying your other aforementioned CA and Colombia aduana paperwork, might reasonably surmise you traveled that far with your bike. The big "however" inserted here is the fact that there is zero proof you didn't return to Mexico and dump the bike. I know you didn't, you know you didn't, but as an aduana official, he can't assume you didn't, no matter how good your story. Further, and probably most importantly, it isn't his job to turn into Judge Judy and listen to this tale and study your evidence, and come to some roadside judgement and render a verdict.

On an unusually lucky day for you, if the stars align, you just might be able to get the official to acquiesce to your request, as they say. But if I had to bet my own money, I'd bet against you. You will be swimming upstream against the current, by which I mean, you will be attempting to skirt the established TVIP process, which is eyes on you, the bike, and the bonding document itself - all at the same time.

I hope I lose and you win this bet.
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