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Old 12-09-2012, 09:12 PM   #16
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:07 PM   #17
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I'm itching for a Kifaru with a wood burning stove.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:20 AM   #18
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Best trick ever.

Grabbed the wife's sewing machine and sewed a pocket up the bottom 2/3rd's of the sleeping bag. The Thermarest now slides in there - no more rolling off the mat in the middle of the night.

I also have a chair kit for the Thermarest, cool on it's own, but you can also use the packing straps from that to attach an inflatable pillow firmly to the mat.

The net result is a MUCH better night's sleep, no more rolling off the mat, it's a lot warmer, and the damned pillow doesn't run away all night.

The rest of my kit won't help you, too hot here ;)

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:45 AM   #19
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Best trick ever.

Grabbed the wife's sewing machine and sewed a pocket up the bottom 2/3rd's of the sleeping bag. The Thermarest now slides in there - no more rolling off the mat in the middle of the night.
You would think that some commercial sleeping bag company would copy your idea (and it is a good one)!
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:54 AM   #20
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I'm itching for a Kifaru with a wood burning stove.
Mine is being built as I type! :) I opted for a brown 6 man, liner, medium stove, warming tray and snow base.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:30 AM   #21
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Mine is being built as I type! :) I opted for a brown 6 man, liner, medium stove, warming tray and snow base.
Awesome.... and you left that out of your post above? I'm probably going to go with a Sawtooth with small stove, trying to decide on the liner or not (not crazy about the additional cost, weight, set-up but condensation sucks). Not sure I'm going to be a hard core snow camper yet, but I'd like to extend the season by a few months before and after the bugs hit.

I can imagine it begin awesome for bike camping in the early spring and late fall... nothing like relaxing with the warmth.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:35 AM   #22
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My Big Agnes Lost Ranger has both a pillow and mat pockets. Can't believe others (manu) don't. This should have been done years ago! I might add that the bulkiness and cost of a Kermit chair is worth the weight and space. There are a number of inexpensive hammocks on the market that work very well for a quick set up nap and or chair. Weigh nothing and pack small. I also have a Jet-Boil, use it, but first grab the pocket rocket and a nesting cup. Cheaper smaller to pack, way less expensive. I also carry a tarp it has so many uses! Can't stand to eat with plastic forks, spoons aren't so bad. A good pocket knife speaks for it's self. Multi-tools are cool I carry one Usually Leatherman, but use them on small tasks. I would never lean on one hard. Tents, everyone starts out in one and ends up in others! One thing I learned after buying a very pricey Hilleberg, is (free standing!) you will end up setting up someplace that won't be tent peg friendly.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:28 AM   #23
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You would think that some commercial sleeping bag company would copy your idea (and it is a good one)!
Big Agnes does.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:50 AM   #24
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Awesome.... and you left that out of your post above? I'm probably going to go with a Sawtooth with small stove, trying to decide on the liner or not (not crazy about the additional cost, weight, set-up but condensation sucks). Not sure I'm going to be a hard core snow camper yet, but I'd like to extend the season by a few months before and after the bugs hit.

I can imagine it begin awesome for bike camping in the early spring and late fall... nothing like relaxing with the warmth.
I didn't mention it for two reasons:
1. I've not used it yet, it might be junk (although I suspect not!)
2. I didn't want to create the impression you *need* one. Maybe for -30 camping you do need that sort of tent, but my 150 Vango has done just fine in snow.

I researched the buggery out of it before hitting "buy" and was torn as to whether or not to get the liner. The shipping and custom charges sealed the deal; it was going to be so much to order it separately "after the fact" if it turned out I did need it after all, that it seemed crazy not to.

I mostly camp in Western/Northern Europe and it tends to get damp here. After hitting buy, I came across lots of Brits/Europeans who were saying that they were terrible without the liners, but that the liners were incredible:
  • Reflect light really well (useful in the brown rather than white) making your torch/lantern/stove light a lot more effective.
  • Made it another couple of degrees warmer inside.
  • Completely cured the condensation, also fairly uniquely for liners, you can brush up against them and they keep moisture on the other side.
Only downsides (other than cost/weight) is supposed to be they can make it feel a little smaller inside. Given the last point in the 'pluses' above, I've heard that the trick is just to stuff your kit up against it around the edge to hold it back and give you a bit more room.

I only discovered most of the above after hitting buy. Glad I opted to go for it now.

Assuming the tipi is completed, ships and clears customs in time, I'll be using mine for a 2 day hike and also for a motorcycle winter rally, all in late Jan/early Feb in the mountains. Snow and below freezing temps will be likely.

It's not just to make winter camping more enjoyable though, I also got it to extend the season my other half will tag along. She feels the cold worse than anyone I've ever met (seriously; 3 layers in summer! ) and until now, we've adopted a model of we camp in summer and she uses my winter bag/mat, when I am using my summer kit. I am hoping the tipi will allow her to tag along in some late spring/early fall trips.

Sawtooth looks great, I think I'd go for the small stove in that too, based on what I've read. Looks like a really neat lightweight solution. If I really love the 6 man, I may well go for one of those for one or two night solo trips.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:51 PM   #25
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Thanks Ceri JC.... I've done some research as well and have come across all those advantages of the liner too. I'll probably will have to go with it, as well as the bug netting as it tends to be humid and buggy here on the Eastcoast. But dang does the cost add up!

Enjoy UR 6 man!
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:38 PM   #26
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Thanks for all the replys chaps. What's the current thinking on heating your tent. ( UK see, not much sun here most of the time) I see Coleman do tent heaters but they are massive and way to big to pack on a bike. I saw one of those collapsable wood burning stove thingies and liked the look of them but bloody hell are they expensive!!!


I like this !!
http://www.walltentshop.com/portablewoodstoves.html

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:37 PM   #27
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:50 PM   #28
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Thanks for all the replys chaps. What's the current thinking on heating your tent. ( UK see, not much sun here most of the time) I see Coleman do tent heaters but they are massive and way to big to pack on a bike. I saw one of those collapsable wood burning stove thingies and liked the look of them but bloody hell are they expensive!!!


I like this !!
http://www.walltentshop.com/portablewoodstoves.html

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?? Don't understand... looks about the same price, but 10x the weight??
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:33 PM   #29
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I don't think I could condense 25 years of camping into one post but here's what has stood out to me.
10 essentials.
Down sleeping bag at least 10 degrees colder then the coldest I expect to sleep in.
Sleeping bag liner.
Thermarest 3/4 deluxe over a ridge rest.
For years I had a single wall Garuda Kaja tent. Now I have a Kingdom 6 family tent.
Compression stuff sacks
Down jacket
Kung Fu shoes for camp shoes unless it's really wet
Non stick pans, that have been painted black on the bottom of the outside
Scraper and cut down sponge and castille(sp?) soap
Two ways to start fires and something to eat that doesn't need to be cooked in addition to the normal rations of food.
Pillow stuff sack, it's made of fleece on the inside and nylon on the outside, stuff it with my jacket and it's a great pillow.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:45 AM   #30
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-Kelty Gunnison 2 tent, or Hennessy Hammock Expedition Asym. I rarely use the tent since I got the Hennessy.
I've had a Kelty Gunnison 2-man for years and my Hennessy Explorer Deluxe Asym is arriving Christmas morning. I'm looking forward to using it.
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