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12-11-2012, 06:30 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
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Location: White House, Tennessee
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12-11-2012, 06:38 PM
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Joined: Jul 2012
Location: Morris Plains, NJ
Oddometer: 54
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I agree with the above idea. Even though i needed to install new valves and basically do an entire top end rebuild after having my petcock leak and fill the case. i still like the vac operated petcock.
I think some people in here mis-understand the reason for using the raptor petcock. It is so you can shut the fuel off manually every time you stop the bike. The stock petcock actually does shut off when its not running. Its done through a vacuum line from the carb that activates a diaphragm. This is nice for when you take a spill because the float in the carb stays open when a bike is on its side, and when the bike shuts off it will cut fuel flow so that you dont spill gas out the overflow. The reason for the raptor petcock is to protect yourself from when multiple things happen: -The diaphragm in the stock petcock gets worn and doesnt do its job -the o-ring in the carb is old/cracked/flattened -the overflow on the carb is clogged or not working. Those 3 things go wrong and you hydro-lock. The raptor petcock is so you manually shut the fuel down instead of relying on the diaphragm, eliminating the first thing in the line of events. BUT Leave the raptor petcock in the on position and you basically just made it so 2 things need to fail instead of 3, a worse situation. Sorry to write a book and take everyone to school, but i really want everyone to understand the reasoning behind the use of the raptor petcock so we can avoid the hydro-lock issue all together. Basically if you do the raptor petcock, remember to shut off your fuel every time you stop and park. that being said... my set up is: Stock petcock, Inline fuel filter, Inline shutoff valve. The shutoff valve being my backup to the diaphragm in the petcock. |
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12-11-2012, 07:21 PM
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Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2010
Location: Cave Creek, Az
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In Line Shut Off Valve
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12-11-2012, 07:59 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Oregon
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Filter & that shutoff valve... can you post a photo of your setup? There is not a lot of room there to mount both of those.
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12-11-2012, 09:45 PM
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Adventurer
Joined: Jul 2012
Location: Morris Plains, NJ
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I got both the fuel filter and shut off valve on ebay... total cost with shipping was $10 or less. I really like being able to cut the fuel without having to give up the vacuum operate petcock for when i drop the bike in the woods. Not to mention you can do this modification in 5 mins without any tools other than a pocket knife. Heres what mine looks like: had some blue gas line laying around that i cut up. The 90 degree shut off valve is a must, the only way to get it to fit without a loop in the line.
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12-12-2012, 02:08 AM
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Wooooo that's too funnay at 4 am!
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12-12-2012, 04:53 AM
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Adventurer
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Location: Cave Creek, Az
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12-12-2012, 05:46 AM
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Mofo
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Richmond Va.
Oddometer: 126
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You can also find shutoffs in the lawn and garden section at Home Depot and Lowes. Usually comes with about 10" of fuel line.
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12-12-2012, 06:00 AM
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Tundra Thumper
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Mid South Indiana
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12-12-2012, 06:09 AM
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Joined: Oct 2009
Location: SouthWest GA and Western NC
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I not 100% sure but think I remember reading where someone had their stock petcock leaked through the vacuum line from the stock petcock which filled the cylinder with fuel. The leaking petcock's fuel did go through the carb but through the vacuum line to the cylinder.
So an in-line shut off would not help in this example. I believe that this is rare buts has happen before.
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12-12-2012, 06:18 AM
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12-12-2012, 06:41 AM
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I will probably pick up a spare over the winter then
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12-12-2012, 06:45 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Ontario Canada
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![]() But although I try to remember to turn mine of after riding, us old farts sometimes forget ![]() So it can be an issue even if you think you are conscientious about that little old gas tap
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A good time to keep your mouth shut is when you’re in deep water! DRZ400S BMW R100/7 BMW1150GS Yamaha TY 175 trials KLR650sold The Recycled Teenager screwed with this post 12-12-2012 at 06:52 AM |
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12-12-2012, 06:55 AM
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No Marks....
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Michissippi & Nuevo Mexico
Oddometer: 1,610
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Not remembering to shut the petcock off is just like forgetting your wife's birthday turn it back ON. If you have a furnace in your garage you do not want gas on the floor under your bike. Friend of mine lost his garage ,tools, and 5 vintage Bultacos making that mistake one time .
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12-12-2012, 01:47 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Ontario Canada
Oddometer: 431
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Ah but in the 60/70s I had a memory that worked ![]() So maybe a sticker on the gas tank for us old farts EH!
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