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Old 12-11-2012, 06:44 PM   #16
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typically a lot of the high end "race" tires for the big rallies are one off race tires that are a radial construction. most of your off road product tires are bias-ply tires.

my guess is that the "race" version is a radial, or at least a construction closer to that..
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:10 AM   #17
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typically a lot of the high end "race" tires for the big rallies are one off race tires that are a radial construction. most of your off road product tires are bias-ply tires.

my guess is that the "race" version is a radial, or at least a construction closer to that..
So you mean it could be that it's the same pattern, only a firmer inner construction?
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:33 AM   #18
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I have always used Michelin Deserts on my race bikes, but have also used both the T63 and Dunlop 908RR over the years too... (on my XR650R).

I'd say the 908RR rear is a great dual-sport (ie. road and trail use) tyre, having ridden one from the UK to Morocco and back as far as Northern Spain before it was worn out.

I've also used T63s (front and rear) on the XR, and found they were pretty useless by about 1000 miles - I wouldn't recommend them on a big heavy/powerful bike - the Deserts will really last twice as long...

However, if you are on a budget - as a previous poster suggested, the T63 rear is similar to the Michelin Desert rear... while I'd add that the Michelin AC10 front is a very similar tread pattern to the Desert front - all are DoT street legal tyres.

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Old 12-12-2012, 05:13 AM   #19
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So you mean it could be that it's the same pattern, only a firmer inner construction?
actually a radial typically is softer construction, but when racing they also use a mousse insert which feels about like 8psi, but no problems with flats so the more flexible carcass will conform to the terrain better (more traction) but with no chance of flats.

also it's usually more expensive but racers don't care. well, at that level anyway. ;)
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:38 AM   #20
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burned up the rear on my SE pretty dang fast... the front truly is terrifying on the highway... but awesome on dirt.... going to try TKC's when my mich enduro's are done..
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:04 AM   #21
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hi guys

what do you think of "motoz" tyres ?

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Old 12-12-2012, 06:40 PM   #22
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Heidenau K60 is probably the best all round tire for the 950. Check with Craig at CJ Designs.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:44 PM   #23
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hi guys

what do you think of "motoz" tyres ?

thanks
I LIKE the rear,have not used a front.Good price. Stout tire.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:27 AM   #24
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for the desert rear's:

The desert is very hard and made for powerfull bikes at extended speed but no longer produced, get them if you can. I love it on the 950 for dry/desert ground.

The desert race has a lot lower profile and is made from softer rubber. specifically made for the 450's now active in dakar. Ive seen it wear a lot faster on these bikes than the old desert, grip is better on rock's and sand. I think on the big bike this is not your best option if you'r looking for a tire that you wont replace after every day racing for a new one.
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:10 PM   #25
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Did Michelin make a new version of the Desert? I see it here and I'm liking the tread:

http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/MI...R-TIRE-1408018

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Old 11-26-2013, 09:28 AM   #26
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IMO I believe the new desert racing tires are for the single 450.
The old thread pattern and the weight of the original rear are for ther big bikes
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:57 AM   #27
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IMO I believe the new desert racing tires are for the single 450.
The old thread pattern and the weight of the original rear are for ther big bikes
Hi I have used both on my 990 and they seem to deliver the same result.
No issue with either .
if I'm lucky I can get 3 days of riding out of them over gravel - rock and a bit of tarseal thrown in , that's about 1200-1500 km .

Pro's
: Great traction of road.
: Great Price
: Good road manners wet or dry
: Side walls also strong = puncture resistance
: Big grins when exiting gravel corners.

Cons : Shelve life . (but refer back to that Grin factor )

Throw a T 63 on the front and enjoy

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Old 11-26-2013, 03:21 PM   #28
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I saw (what I believe to be) a prototype of the Desert Race a couple years ago on Rallye Pan Am's KTM 690R, which was fresh back from "Dakar" Rally in Argentina. It looked equally stout to the conventional Mich Desert but perhaps more road-worthy. I'd use it on my HP2 but I need it to be as good or better than the 908RR. Certainly the 908 is not a light-duty "450-ish" type tire - any intel here?

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Old 07-25-2014, 02:46 PM   #29
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Any fresh intel on the newer Desert Race rear tire? Trying to decide on another 908 or ?? Have 1500 easy dual sport miles on my Desert Race front and it looks great.


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Old 07-25-2014, 04:25 PM   #30
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Of course, the bigger the bike the harder it will be on rears. Since the rear is going quickly anyway, I've given up on high mileage and have raised the importance of cost in my selection of tires. The T63 is a real bargain but the largest rear you can get is 130/80 and that is too small on a 690 or larger. I think the next best bargain is the Pirelli Scorp. Rally and both front and back work well on my 690 and I just bought a set to try on my 1190R.
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