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Old 12-13-2012, 06:24 AM   #1126
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Hammer forming

You can also use a leather sand bag to the same effect in case you don't have a place to store your very own forming stump. You can add or subtract sand based on how much dish you want. An upside is that unlike the wood the leather will not impart its imperfections into the metal.

Here's an example, but if you're handy you could make your own.

http://www.eastwood.com/ew-panelbeater-sandbag.html

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:40 AM   #1127
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You can also use a leather sand bag to the same effect in case you don't have a place to store your very own forming stump. You can add or subtract sand based on how much dish you want. An upside is that unlike the wood the leather will not impart its imperfections into the metal.

Here's an example, but if you're handy you could make your own.

http://www.eastwood.com/ew-panelbeater-sandbag.html

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Very good info! Thanks, Ken.


I knew about the leather bags, but never thought about the imperfections part. I like it when people chime in and we all learn something along the way.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:29 AM   #1128
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HF has several size teardrop mallets for a reasonable price - it will move your work much smoother and faster than that ball peen hammer of your grandfathers.

+1 on the shot bags - I found mine on Ebay. The vendor was selling a package deal of three bags One used as a slap dolly and a small bag about 5insq then a 14in bag for heavy work

Good luck with your projects
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:11 AM   #1129
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HF has several size teardrop mallets for a reasonable price - it will move your work much smoother and faster than that ball peen hammer of your grandfathers.

+1 on the shot bags - I found mine on Ebay. The vendor was selling a package deal of three bags One used as a slap dolly and a small bag about 5insq then a 14in bag for heavy work

Good luck with your projects
True, but I was going for a texture, so I used the smallest ball end I could find.

I do need some nice mallets for if I'm looking for as smooth as possible...

Thanks!
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:21 AM   #1130
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I cut out the other side and shape it with the hammer. I MIG the halves together and shape the pieces with the hammer and grinder as I go.

Above is the side I shaped with the ball end of the hammer...



...and above is the peen side - much smoother. I just wanted to see the difference so I could pick which side I wanted for the front.



I like the texture of the ball side better, so that becomes the front of this project. Now for a decorative ribbon out of 22ga. scrap.



After cutting it out, I can simply bend it by hand.



... to go here.



I drill a 1/4" hole in the ribbon and plug weld it to the heart. Then I use a flap wheel and grind it smooth so you can't see how it's attached.



I bend a piece of 3/32" ER70S-6 mild steel TIG wire and MIG it to the back for a hanger.

The texture on the front gave me a neat idea for a finish that should work...
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:43 AM   #1131
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cool stuff

I had good luck with the japanese brown from here:

http://www.sculptnouveau.com/Details...=34&category=6

just a thought, plus they have many more finishes available
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:31 PM   #1132
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cool stuff

I had good luck with the japanese brown from here:

http://www.sculptnouveau.com/Details...=34&category=6

just a thought, plus they have many more finishes available

^ Thank you for the link. King Architectural Metals has similar coatings in their catalog. I've been meaning to try some of these. Thanks again.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:50 AM   #1133
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One of the finishes we used in our blacksmithing class was applied at a low heat. We brushed the piece with a brass brush and the brass will transfer to the piece and give you a nice golden color.

We were cautioned to go easy on the brass coloring since it's easy to over do that and make it look very gothic gold leaf looking.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:01 PM   #1134
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One of the finishes we used in our blacksmithing class was applied at a low heat. We brushed the piece with a brass brush and the brass will transfer to the piece and give you a nice golden color.

We were cautioned to go easy on the brass coloring since it's easy to over do that and make it look very gothic gold leaf looking.

Very interesting!

Hey? I wish you would post up more info. on your blacksmithing. Show us your coal forge and all the goodies you guys are making.

Feel free to post to this thread or you can even start a blacksmithing thread. I imagine you are making some very nice things.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:14 AM   #1135
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I have some heavy lifting coming up, so I decide to make a roll-around gantry crane...



I've been eyeballing this hoist on Craigslist for some time, and finally get the coin to make it happen. The seller was awesome and had all kinds of cool inventions he came up with using his MIG. I didn't really want to leave! Thanks, Jack!



I whip up a quick sketch for some very crude dimensions so I have a rough idea on how much material to buy. The design is from much research and also from some very good tips from some inmates here.

Square tube ends up being about 40% more than schedule 40, but I go with square tube thinking it will be easier to drill for adjustments, and should be easier to miter.



Hot-rolled 3 1/2" x 1/4" and 4" x 3/16" square tube. Square tube is measured by outside diameter, so I chose 3/16" wall on the 4" to be sure that the 3 1/2" doesn't bind on the innner weld seam of the 4".

I bought 2 full sticks (20 and 24 feet respectively), and paid a cut charge to make sure I could transport them safely.

8" diameter x 2" wide, heavy-duty, swivel casters with brakes have been ordered on ebay. This puppy is gonna' be HEAVY!

I love it when a project comes together!
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:12 PM   #1136
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I have some heavy lifting coming up, so I decide to make a roll-around gantry crane...
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This puppy is gonna' be HEAVY!
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I love it when a project comes together!
Heavy is a bag of cement. That thing is going to be mega.
10'6" high? is that going to fit in the garage? or are you building it to raise the garage roof?

I am thinking about small project. A 16 gauge case case. I am not trying to keep out pro's just enough that I can have them locked up. I could not get a regular safe down these stairs (dont ask)
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:35 PM   #1137
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Heavy is a bag of cement. That thing is going to be mega.
10'6" high? is that going to fit in the garage? or are you building it to raise the garage roof?

I am thinking about small project. A 16 gauge case case. I am not trying to keep out pro's just enough that I can have them locked up. I could not get a regular safe down these stairs (dont ask)

That's 437lbs of steel on the floor.

Yep, in the lowered position, the crane should be 7' +/- to the top. It will likely live outside with weather protection over the motor and control, though. The cool part is that I will be able to raise it to pick off of the truck or trailer, drop the beam, re-rig and roll the load in the garage. Suh-weet!

What's a case case? Whatever it is, post up progress piccys.

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Old 12-21-2012, 03:39 PM   #1138
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What's a case case? Whatever it is, post up progress piccys.
Either my fingers or brain when on vacation at that moment. What I was trying to type was Gun case. If I ever figure out a lock mechanism, I will post some piccycs!
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:41 PM   #1139
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Legs and main post collars cut out with a 4 1/2" cutting wheel in a grinder. I cut the angles first, then connected the lines with a square. Then I do my best to angle the cutting wheel at 30 and 60 degree angles to connect the cuts. It's the best way I can do it for now. A large, compound miter bandsaw is in my future. The cutting wheel method really didn't take very long at all. It works for now.



I double check my 5' measurement. The casters should take me close to 6'. I can fine tune the height of the collar that attaches to the beam to get my desired height.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:42 PM   #1140
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Either my fingers or brain when on vacation at that moment. What I was trying to type was Gun case. If I ever figure out a lock mechanism, I will post some piccycs!
I thought maybe it was a lockable Case knife case!
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