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Old 12-15-2012, 09:41 AM   #1516
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thanks jurassic, did it already but youtube answer is: Vid not available in your country. bloddy hell. i mean, this is not northern korea, isnt it?
It is because of the music used in the video. Germany is pretty strict on Google to enforce copyrights...
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:05 AM   #1517
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any suggestions get this vid running by german internet?

ok,ok will buy the dvd, but in the meantime.......

Walter your report is stunning!
German YouTube is super fussy about music in videos. You can change your default location in youtube to any other western country and it will run fine. Or, just for the German audience, I have uploaded it to Vimeo as well, which is less fussy about music in videos.

Try this ... (click the HD button in the bottom right to watch in HiDef)

2012 Altai from Sibirsky Extreme on Vimeo.

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Old 12-15-2012, 10:11 AM   #1518
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Absolute spectacular footage and sweet editing!
Unsurprisingly, this report delivers!
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:18 AM   #1519
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Altai region looks worth the trip alone......Walter....in your opinion,would it be possible to do this trip on say, a standard 650BMW single/twin eg. the new Sertao, at a steadier/gentler pace....i cant afford a road bike and an expensive off road bike so couldnt afford any fancy suspension parts etc (but obviously a few sensible mods)
If you want a cheap new bike without many mods to do this kinda stuff, consider the Husqvarna TR650 Terra (18 inch) .... It cheaper (1400 quid cheaper), lighter than a Sertao, has the same engine, but with 10 extra HP ... And its all designed by the same engineers at BMW (but an 11 year newer design). If you are riding at a gentler pace, then you dont need aftermarket suspension. Better suspension works better, which means you can ride faster for the same risk and difficulty. But you dont need it if you are riding sedately. Just get someone like Hyperpro to fit you with a new spring at the back if you are carrying luggage ... The stock spring weight will be for an unladen bike. A spring properly weighted for rider, load and luggage is not a huge cost (from memory about 120 EUR fitted in Holland).
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:32 AM   #1520
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Great video.

I see you are smart and used the bridge,I mean who wouldn't when you have one available,right?
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:12 PM   #1521
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A big thank you for that fantastic video from the german audience!

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Old 12-15-2012, 12:59 PM   #1522
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thanks Prutser/Walter....don't want to ride too sedately.. suppose the best bet is to have some fun on the easier terrain and back off when the bike is not coping so well with terrain its not up to .........i was thinking, possibly a 2nd hand (1-2year old) 650 bmw with some limitations is still better than not doing it

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Old 12-15-2012, 01:11 PM   #1523
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If you want a cheap new bike without many mods to do this kinda stuff, consider the Husqvarna TR650 Terra (18 inch) .... It cheaper (1400 quid cheaper), lighter than a Sertao, has the same engine, but with 10 extra HP ... And its all designed by the same engineers at BMW (but an 11 year newer design). If you are riding at a gentler pace, then you dont need aftermarket suspension. Better suspension works better, which means you can ride faster for the same risk and difficulty. But you dont need it if you are riding sedately. Just get someone like Hyperpro to fit you with a new spring at the back if you are carrying luggage ... The stock spring weight will be for an unladen bike. A spring properly weighted for rider, load and luggage is not a huge cost (from memory about 120 EUR fitted in Holland).
+1000
The G650GS and the Serato are very top heavy and outdated compared with the Husky. Not that the Husky is a lightweight by any means bit is is a fine machine.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:22 PM   #1524
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totally agree.......but given the chance to go or not, but it had to be on the G650.....what would you do....
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:43 PM   #1525
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Great RR!!!

Great job on the video!!!!......Looks like some Awesome riding!!!
Thanks for sharing!!
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:49 PM   #1526
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Great video.....cant wait for the DVD to come out. Put me on the waiting list.
The Altai looks like a piece of Switzerland in the middle of Siberia.
Simply awesome. This report gets better by the day!
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:00 PM   #1527
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Do you use those heavy duty tubes (4 - 5mm thick)? I was wondering if anybody thinks they're a worthwhile investment
UHD tubes do not prevent snake bites from rims, as I could experience in Morocco (running 1.1-1.2 bars in stones). Simple heavy duty from Michelin are made out of sturdier gum and are really resistant, light and small enough for the same (extreme) use. UHD are also more difficult to mount and also to patch (since they are much less flexible they create lots of shear tension on the patch, which may eventually come off)
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:33 PM   #1528
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If you want a cheap new bike without many mods to do this kinda stuff, consider the Husqvarna TR650 Terra (18 inch) .... It cheaper (1400 quid cheaper), lighter than a Sertao, has the same engine, but with 10 extra HP ...
But as compared to X-challenge?
~20 kg heavier, has higher compression ratio (12.3 vs 11.5 to 1), and only 190mm suspension travel...
How much difference do you think such compression ratio will make?

Looks sooooo good though!

PS. Also a Loncin assembled Rotax, if I understand correctly...
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:29 PM   #1529
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UHD tubes do not prevent snake bites from rims, as I could experience in Morocco (running 1.1-1.2 bars in stones). Simple heavy duty from Michelin are made out of sturdier gum and are really resistant, light and small enough for the same (extreme) use. UHD are also more difficult to mount and also to patch (since they are much less flexible they create lots of shear tension on the patch, which may eventually come off)
Interesting observation. I had asked Cole before about patching materials and techniques used.

Do you guys have any name brands for patch kits/glue ... and technique when trail side?

I suck at patching. I found it impossible to do a trail side patch on a Bridgestone UHD tube. Ended up just changing tubes ... and gifting the big UHD tube to a local.
I always carry normal weight tubes for spares. (3 usually for Baja)

I've never got a "Snake Bite" (AKA: Pinch Flat) on a HD tube. Just lucky I guess ... but have helped others who have done it. I also like the Michelin HD tubes I have used, also Metzeler are good but not commonly found in the USA.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:55 PM   #1530
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PS. Also a Loncin assembled Rotax, if I understand correctly...
It's a Rotax design originally ... now, ALL parts made in China at Loncin plant. For the new Husky, BMW designers went through the motor, made several upgrades according to Motorcyclist's Aaron Frank, who attended the Terra/Strada Intro in Spain:
Shared bottom end with G650 BMW ... but, Lighter Piston, more aggressive cams, higher compression 12.3:1. Frank said: "weak off the bottom but a zippy mid range, quick revving, good character." Over all good review.

If it holds together could be a good KLR beater.
Two major things I'd want to change:
1. Steel swing arm
2. Dual exhaust
An Alu swing arm and single can should take off 10 to 12 kgs or so.
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