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Old 12-14-2012, 08:15 PM   #4021
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That is amazing. I couldn't even get the F800GS off the side stand. My dealer always had to remind me that 800GS just not or me, but 1200GS is better option.

I saw one one gentleman at the Long Beach show, about my height and probably same inseam as mine, mounted the bike and was tippie towing. I went before he did, and I was nervous. He said even if he does not flat foot, he's okay with the I pipe tow.
5'8" 28" inseam, and I can easily ride an R1200GS Adventure. I rode an R1200GS for several years!

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Old 12-14-2012, 08:26 PM   #4022
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I could easily ride a GSA too (5'10/30") but I surely wouldn't characterize righting it off the side stand as easy, especially when laden with panniers. .
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:51 PM   #4023
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That is amazing. I couldn't even get the F800GS off the side stand. My dealer always had to remind me that 800GS just not or me, but 1200GS is better option.

I saw one one gentleman at the Long Beach show, about my height and probably same inseam as mine, mounted the bike and was tippie towing. I went before he did, and I was nervous. He said even if he does not flat foot, he's okay with the I pipe tow.
There always are options for the f800gs like a lower seat, dealing with the fork and the suspension. you can gain about 7cms
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:26 PM   #4024
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There always are options for the f800gs like a lower seat, dealing with the fork and the suspension. you can gain about 7cms
F800Gs is way too tall for me. Not an option. I found R1200GS to be lower than 800GS.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:31 PM   #4025
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Back to my original question - in the new water cooled R1200GS, is Dynamic ESA available for low suspension? Dealers don't have this info until March 2013 when they go to Morocco. Has anyone gotten any word from BMW while at the show?
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:15 AM   #4026
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Back to my original question - in the new water cooled R1200GS, is Dynamic ESA available for low suspension? Dealers don't have this info until March 2013 when they go to Morocco. Has anyone gotten any word from BMW while at the show?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say thats gonna probably be a no. Since the ESA option has been available, it has never been able to be combined with ESA. That goes for the RT, R12R, R12GS, and even now the F700/800GS's. I would not count on it.



**I will check on the build site to see if both options can be added together, in the morning...

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Old 12-15-2012, 08:24 AM   #4027
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Prices now announced in the UK

R1200GS - 11,395 - includes ABS, Hand guards, L & R Pannier Fastenings but everything else is an option

R1200GS Enduro - 12,435 - c/w Enduro ASC with Enduro ABS, Rain, Road, Dynamic, Enduro & Enduro Pro-riding modes
Daytime Running Lights
Cruise Control
Cross Spoke Wheels
Hand guards
L & R Pannier Fastenings

R1200GS Touring - 13,815 -
Heated Grips
Tyre Pressure Control
Led White indicators
Enduro ASC with Enduro ABS, Rain, Road, Dynamic, Enduro & Enduro Pro riding modes & Dynamic ESA (semi active suspension system)
LED Headlight with Daytime Riding Light and twin bar rear light
On-Board Computer Pro
Preparation for GPS
Chrome plated Exhaust system
Cruise Control
Hand guards
L & R Pannier Fastenings

The Touring is going to be the big seller; 85% of all previous R1200GS's had the Dynamic & Premium packs on & the Touring is the equivalent.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:40 AM   #4028
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say thats gonna probably be a no. Since the ESA option has been available, it has never been able to be combined with ESA. That goes for the RT, R12R, R12GS, and even now the F700/800GS's. I would not count on it.



**I will check on the build site to see if both options can be added together, in the morning...
Shows how much I know. On BMWs order site today it let me add options 191 Dynamic ESA and option 499 Low Suspension.

It is still early for a deffinative answer, but it appears as though BMW has finally figured out ESA and low suspension...
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:05 PM   #4029
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Shows how much I know. On BMWs order site today it let me add options 191 Dynamic ESA and option 499 Low Suspension.

It is still early for a deffinative answer, but it appears as though BMW has finally figured out ESA and low suspension...
Holy Smokes Batman! You da man. You have given me hope.

I like to at least flat foot as much as possible. With enduro riding especially, you will not always have a leveled surface, mostly it would be very uneven.

Flat footing on my current bike, I can relax while stopped and sitting on the bike for good 20 minutes.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:08 PM   #4030
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Talking 38 " inseam

If life is hard for those with dachshound length legs it's not so much easier for us who are on the opposite end of the scale.
A cramped riding position is not so much fun if you have even a half desire to "iron butt" a trip.
I have lowered my pegs about 50 mm and also made them pivotable, makes a big difference on a long day in the saddle.
Ok it's dead easy at the red lights
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:06 PM   #4031
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Prices now announced in the UK

R1200GS - 11,395 - includes ABS, Hand guards, L & R Pannier Fastenings but everything else is an option

R1200GS Enduro - 12,435 - c/w Enduro ASC with Enduro ABS, Rain, Road, Dynamic, Enduro & Enduro Pro-riding modes
Daytime Running Lights
Cruise Control
Cross Spoke Wheels
Hand guards
L & R Pannier Fastenings

R1200GS Touring - 13,815 -
Heated Grips
Tyre Pressure Control
Led White indicators
Enduro ASC with Enduro ABS, Rain, Road, Dynamic, Enduro & Enduro Pro riding modes & Dynamic ESA (semi active suspension system)
LED Headlight with Daytime Riding Light and twin bar rear light
On-Board Computer Pro
Preparation for GPS
Chrome plated Exhaust system
Cruise Control
Hand guards
L & R Pannier Fastenings

The Touring is going to be the big seller; 85% of all previous R1200GS's had the Dynamic & Premium packs on & the Touring is the equivalent.
Can you tell us how this pricing compares with the camhead GS?
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:14 PM   #4032
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Can you tell us how this pricing compares with the camhead GS?
It's virtually identical
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:51 PM   #4033
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I could easily ride a GSA too (5'10/30") but I surely wouldn't characterize righting it off the side stand as easy, especially when laden with panniers. .
It's a technique. You need to learn how to throw your weight into it.

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Old 12-15-2012, 08:47 PM   #4034
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Shows how much I know. On BMWs order site today it let me add options 191 Dynamic ESA and option 499 Low Suspension.

It is still early for a deffinative answer, but it appears as though BMW has finally figured out ESA and low suspension...
I was at the Seattle show today and asked the question point blank to the BMW rep. The answer was that Dynamic ESA and low suspension are not compatible.

It would be awesome if it was though. But it didn't stop me from putting down $$$$ to get in line. It felt good to sit on and can't wait for the first test ride. Red seems to be my color of choice. So far..
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:52 PM   #4035
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