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Old 12-17-2012, 06:59 AM   #26596
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As long as the bike isn't swinging back and forth, you shouldn't have any problems with the cables. What problems you're going to have are scratches in the paint from the pressure/friction when you're hanging the bike that way.

I've got 4 of 5 of my bikes hung the same way. I just don't particularly worry about it.
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That hook dealio is rubber coated. And, I've seen it listed for hanging bicycles.
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the hook is but the frame's not

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Thanks for the further replies gents.



Yeah, there is a nice foam on the forks of the wall mounted rack. I am not overly worried about scratches on frame, but again, it is a brand new bike so I'll avoid what scratches I can.

I did not give it too much investigation, but it looks like it might not be that hard to unclip those two lines where they hook to frame, towards front, and let them hang down when on wall rack. Not that big a deal to hook those back up again when I take it down to ride.

Would there be any kind of line tension issues I might have to deal with??( in other words, would I mess up any of the shifter settings by taking that line on and off for storage?)
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:10 AM   #26597
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Would there be any kind of line tension issues I might have to deal with??( in other words, would I mess up any of the shifter settings by taking that line on and off for storage?)
The PITA factor alone would have me recommending that you don't do that.

Its easy to do if you want to: for the rear der, shift to the small cog (physical size) and with the shifter in that position push the derailleur back to the big cog. (physical size) That's gonna give you enough room to get the housing out of the stops.

The worst you're gonna do is get the ferrules not seated exactly where they were. That may/may not be a problem when you start riding again: der into the spokes or off the end of the cassette on the small end if the limit screws weren't set right, or shifting problems. The der off either side of the cassette can be catastrophic. AMHIK

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Old 12-17-2012, 07:16 AM   #26598
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We rode those.

We parked at the convenience store, on HWY200, and rode east from there, all the way to Santos TH and back. It was quite the day. We rode a few miles east of Santos TH, on another day, and would like to ride further east. That's such a great network of trails that one can just ride and not be killing themselves.
I'm gonna leave my GPS home next time and just enjoy the trails without worrying about my Strava records.

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Also, I carry a spare derailluer hanger and derailluer. Both our bikes take the same hanger and are both SRAM.
That's not a bad idea. How much do those parts cost?
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:28 AM   #26599
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if you're worried about scratching the paint, why not just take a piece of that protective tape (like a chainstay protector) and put it on the bottom of the Top Tube so the cables can't scratch the frame?


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Thanks for the further replies gents.



Yeah, there is a nice foam on the forks of the wall mounted rack. I am not overly worried about scratches on frame, but again, it is a brand new bike so I'll avoid what scratches I can.

I did not give it too much investigation, but it looks like it might not be that hard to unclip those two lines where they hook to frame, towards front, and let them hang down when on wall rack. Not that big a deal to hook those back up again when I take it down to ride.

Would there be any kind of line tension issues I might have to deal with??( in other words, would I mess up any of the shifter settings by taking that line on and off for storage?)
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:42 AM   #26600
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The PITA factor alone would have me recommending that you don't do that.

Its easy to do if you want to: for the rear der, shift to the small cog (physical size) and with the shifter in that position push the derailleur back to the big cog. (physical size) That's gonna give you enough room to get the housing out of the stops.

The worst you're gonna do is get the ferrules not seated exactly where they were. That may/may not be a problem when you start riding again: der into the spokes or off the end of the cassette on the small end if the limit screws weren't set right, or shifting problems. The der off either side of the cassette can be catastrophic. AMHIK

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Full housing; just snip the cable ties.

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I'm gonna leave my GPS home next time and just enjoy the trails without worrying about my Strava records.
I always take my GPS, just in case. It was particularly handy down there, as I could see where we were at in relation to trailheads. We managed to drink all of my 100oz of water, between water points. As you know, not all the Santos trailheads have water.

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That's not a bad idea. How much do those parts cost?
Depends on the bike and components. The hanger might be $10-$20 and the derailluer could be as much as $250. Your hanger may have a part number on it, if not, look here and find the QBP part number. That'll save you from having to deal with a shop employee fumbling around trying to find a match.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:49 AM   #26601
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if you're worried about scratching the paint, why not just take a piece of that protective tape (like a chainstay protector) and put it on the bottom of the Top Tube so the cables can't scratch the frame?
This is what I use. Amazon has it in many sizes. Great for moto tank/frame protection too.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:06 AM   #26602
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I always take my GPS, just in case. It was particularly handy down there, as I could see where we were at in relation to trailheads. We managed to drink all of my 100oz of water, between water points. As you know, not all the Santos trailheads have water.
Mine doesn't have any maps loaded, so its of no use as a navigational tool. I always carry a trail map with me for that reason. Greenway Bicycles provides them free of charge, or you can just print them from the OMBA website.

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Depends on the bike and components. The hanger might be $10-$20 and the derailluer could be as much as $250. Your hanger may have a part number on it, if not, look here and find the QBP part number. That'll save you from having to deal with a shop employee fumbling around trying to find a match.
I'm going to look into this. My riding buddy Dave used to be a bicycle mechanic, so he'll know how to replace a broken one.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:12 AM   #26603
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I'm going to look into this. My riding buddy Dave used to be a bicycle mechanic, so he'll know how to replace a broken one.
Typically, a hanger is going to break well before the der is trashed. Its designed that way.

My buddy that munched a pair of Zipps the other week tore a bunch of spokes out of the rear wheel using his derailleur. Changed out the hanger, der was fine.

The Wheels Manufacturing hangers are typically stiffer than stock, so be aware that the 'fuse' in the system just got rated for a higher amperage. IOW the hanger is stiffer and you'll shift better but you also have a greater chance of messing up your derailleur.

YMMV

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Old 12-17-2012, 08:20 AM   #26604
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I'm going to look into this. My riding buddy Dave used to be a bicycle mechanic, so he'll know how to replace a broken one.
Back in the day, a buddy snapped his hanger off while we were descending a rough downhill section. We got to the bottom of the mountain and I ended up pulling him about a mile to the parking lot, with him hanging onto my seat post. Thanks for the memory jog.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:22 AM   #26605
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Back in the day, a buddy snapped his hanger off while we were descending a rough downhill section. We got to the bottom of the mountain and I ended up pulling him about a mile to the parking lot, with him hanging onto my seat post. Thanks for the memory jog.
That's the point where you pull out the chain tool and make a SS out of the bike so he can ride out.

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Old 12-17-2012, 08:27 AM   #26606
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That's the point where you pull out the chain tool and make a SS out of the bike so he can ride out.
Damn, that very thing occurred to me but I thought it was too obvious, so there must be some reason it wouldn't work.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:31 AM   #26607
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Damn, that very thing occurred to me but I thought it was too obvious, so there must be some reason it wouldn't work.
Nope. Works great.

BTDT a few times over the years. Primarily before replaceable hangers were invented. Damn sticks!

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Old 12-17-2012, 08:41 AM   #26608
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:42 AM   #26609
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if you're worried about scratching the paint, why not just take a piece of that protective tape (like a chainstay protector) and put it on the bottom of the Top Tube so the cables can't scratch the frame?
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This is what I use. Amazon has it in many sizes. Great for moto tank/frame protection too.
Good idea..thanks guys.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:45 AM   #26610
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That's the point where you pull out the chain tool and make a SS out of the bike so he can ride out.

Emergency surgery on mtn bikes can be fun. ...as long as its not your bike!

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The timing of the hanger snap was perfect. Happened close to the bottom of the downhill. Coasted out onto pavement, smooth easy tow ride to parking lot. If you ever head to southwest VA, I suggest the trails at Douthat State Park to experience it for yourself, but a SS won't go very far there.
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