The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest - Page 271

kindofblue · 12-17-2012, 12:40 PM

I don't know. The sound at idle is OK but when the throttle is blipped, it sounds like someone's passing gas

. I've had an 08 and a '10 GS and those mufflers sounded much better than this one.

EJ_92606 · 12-17-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kindofblue

I don't know. The sound at idle is OK but when the throttle is blipped, it sounds like someone's passing gas

. I've had an 08 and a '10 GS and those mufflers sounded much better than this one.

I think the difference is that we are hearing an engine that spins up a lot faster than the previous boxer motors. Also an unloaded engine is going to sound a lot different than when you are riding. Have you really stood behind your bike and had someone rev it to 6k or more and listened to it? I know I haven't. Also, it seems that this engine was probably cold, which could also impact its sound.

nzcvlh · 12-17-2012, 05:37 PM

too much blue smoke on that start up. doesn't appear they totally fixed the oil consumption problem.

Montauk · 12-17-2012, 06:30 PM

I think we are all quite excited about the bike and one little thing we hear, we start o dissect. Nothing wrong with that, I am glad that we are hashing everything, 'cause that keeps me entertained.

My take on these two issues - sound and smoke are that it's premature for any conclusion. I like the leaf blower sound at idle, not sure If I like the reving sound though. Of course recording devices make a big difference as someone already pointed out.

When riding you won't necessarily hear it with ear plugs, so it doesn't matter. But then again, there is Akropovic (sp) exhaust to fancy your needs.

Moronic · 12-17-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nzcvlh

too much blue smoke on that start up. doesn't appear they totally fixed the oil consumption problem.

Pretty hard to fix that on this engine design. Big variations in crankcase pressure (from the pistons' boxing), and a combustion chamber that is gravity-fed oil when the bike is on the sidestand.

The amazing thing is that they drink so little oil.

Montauk · 12-17-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Moronic

The amazing thing is that they drink so little oil.

It depends, but it could be my old designed bike.

On 2004 R1200C, when I stop the engine, I stay on it for about 30-60 seconds and then put it on the side stand, to allow oil to drain below instead into the left cylinder. This consumes less oil. Now if I put it on the side stand immediately after turning ignition off, it can consume about a quart for 3,000 miles. Furthermore, it also becomes little harder to start due to accumulation of oil in the cylinder.

mtbenson · 12-18-2012, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nzcvlh

too much blue smoke on that start up. doesn't appear they totally fixed the oil consumption problem.

What problem? I've owned oilheads/hexheads since 1995 and have only added oil one time between changes.

kencc · 12-18-2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mtbenson

What problem? I've owned oilheads/hexheads since 1995 and have only added oil one time between changes.

You must change it a lot

mtbenson · 12-18-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kencc

You must change it a lot

No, 3-5k.

paladinwest · 12-18-2012, 10:57 AM

I have a R1200GSA and an HP2 Sport, neither burns any measurable amount of oil. The HP2 was raced for half it's life (before I got it) and it shows no change in oil level in the 4-5000 kms that I put on it each year. The GSA is changed at 10,000 km intervals and it hasn't used oil since the first 8000. My K100RS goes 7500 kms between changes and the drop in oil level at the sight glass is also not measurable. Just don't park it on the side stand, especially after making a hard left turn. If you allow it to cool down a bit chances are you will see some serious blue smoke - along the lines of an old ringding two stroke from the 60's.

Andrew · 12-18-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EJ_92606

Found a better picture of the intake....yes, definitely an injector as can be seen by the light blue color signifying gasoline.

That picture looks just like a space alien standing on a flying wasser-boxer, warding off all foes with palm-beam death rays.

PirateJohn · 12-18-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

That picture looks just like a space alien standing on a flying wasser-boxer, warding off all foes with palm-beam death rays.

The death rays will be an option in the USA. Or so I hear.

RetrogradE · 12-18-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

That picture looks just like a space alien standing on a flying wasser-boxer, warding off all foes with palm-beam death rays.

It looks like the inside of my balls.

. . .as far as my imagination is concerned. I've never actually looked inside my balls.

EJ_92606 · 12-18-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateJohn

The death rays will be an option in the USA. Or so I hear.

Pending DOT approval

Marki_GSA · 12-18-2012, 03:52 PM

If your current boxer uses a lot of oil it either hasn't done at least 12000 miles or it was pampered too much when it was being ran in. Boxer engines that have been pampered too much will always burn oil and there is only one way to fix it. Get the bores honed and re-ring it then give it some while breaking it in.

12-17-2012, 12:40 PM	#4051
kindofblue Ride it like you stole it Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Oddometer: 655	muffler sounds I don't know. The sound at idle is OK but when the throttle is blipped, it sounds like someone's passing gas . I've had an 08 and a '10 GS and those mufflers sounded much better than this one. __________________ Doc Reid 2013 GS LC Red (the fastest color ) Wondering about your drinking? www.drinkerscheckup.com Get saddlesore when riding? Check these shorts out

12-18-2012, 10:57 AM	#4060
paladinwest Been Around Joined: Apr 2008 Location: BC Interior Oddometer: 140	I have a R1200GSA and an HP2 Sport, neither burns any measurable amount of oil. The HP2 was raced for half it's life (before I got it) and it shows no change in oil level in the 4-5000 kms that I put on it each year. The GSA is changed at 10,000 km intervals and it hasn't used oil since the first 8000. My K100RS goes 7500 kms between changes and the drop in oil level at the sight glass is also not measurable. Just don't park it on the side stand, especially after making a hard left turn. If you allow it to cool down a bit chances are you will see some serious blue smoke - along the lines of an old ringding two stroke from the 60's. __________________ '08 HP2 Sport - 10,000+, '08 R1200 GSA - 68,000+, '90 R100GSPD - 100,000, '86 K100RS - 152,000 paladinwest screwed with this post 12-18-2012 at 02:05 PM

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12-17-2012, 05:37 PM	#4053
nzcvlh Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Superior Township, MI (Ann Arbor) Oddometer: 58	too much blue smoke on that start up. doesn't appear they totally fixed the oil consumption problem.

12-17-2012, 06:30 PM	#4054
Montauk Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Fruit County in Golden State, USA Oddometer: 260	I think we are all quite excited about the bike and one little thing we hear, we start o dissect. Nothing wrong with that, I am glad that we are hashing everything, 'cause that keeps me entertained. My take on these two issues - sound and smoke are that it's premature for any conclusion. I like the leaf blower sound at idle, not sure If I like the reving sound though. Of course recording devices make a big difference as someone already pointed out. When riding you won't necessarily hear it with ear plugs, so it doesn't matter. But then again, there is Akropovic (sp) exhaust to fancy your needs.

12-18-2012, 03:52 PM	#4065
Marki_GSA Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2011 Location: Scotland Oddometer: 198	If your current boxer uses a lot of oil it either hasn't done at least 12000 miles or it was pampered too much when it was being ran in. Boxer engines that have been pampered too much will always burn oil and there is only one way to fix it. Get the bores honed and re-ring it then give it some while breaking it in.