Is Mexico Safe?

[MikeMike]

Actually, that is why the Mystery Rider and I had you ride at the back. We needed fresh bait.
I think that decal on the V-Strom scared them off.

[Craneguy]

Originally Posted by MikeMike

Actually, that is why the Mystery Rider and I had you ride at the back. We needed fresh bait.
I think that decal on the V-Strom scared them off.

Is that like the german snipers and three cigarette lights... They see you, get excited by the shiny Harley then grab the poor British sap at the end?

[miguelito]

Originally Posted by Rhode trip

Thanks, Miguelito, for the info.
Are you referring to the road between H. del Parral and Creel that looks like it continues on from the end of Mex20?
Is there a RR or vid of that route? And is that the one in the news lately with the roadblock? Still waiting on the arrival of some better maps. I find Google maps tough for planning as there's little detail until you are zoomed in so far there is no sense of scale.

Not sure, but the road block took place about 20 miles or so from Guachochi. I'm assuming the women from Cuahtemoc were traveling south to Parral then west to Guachochi. If they went another way, it would involve taking their new Jetta on a lot of dirt roads. There was a gunfight around Guadalupe y Calvo, (west of parral on rt.24), not long ago and the area is definitely under the influence of cartel(s). I've ridden around those parts in the past few years with no problem. YMMV. My guess, is that since this incident, there is more of a police presence in the area, and it would not be as dangerous to travel there at present, but I'm just guessing really. I would definitely not be riding around after dark here, or just about anywhere in Mexico if for no other reason than the surplus of livestock on the roads. If you had more time, I'd recommend coming down further south and exploring the Sierra Gorda.

[acejones]

Originally Posted by Turkeycreek

Speculation of this sort is pretty much useless. People carry cash for lots of reasons, not all of them suspect.

All I said is I am curious. I happen to think curiosity and speculation are healthy traits.

[tricepilot]

Originally Posted by acejones

..........curiosity and speculation are healthy traits.

Happens between men and women all the time

[Turkeycreek]

Originally Posted by acejones

All I said is I am curious. I happen to think curiosity and speculation are healthy traits.

We all speculate, it can be fun but it is essentially useless. No offense intended

[acejones]

Originally Posted by Turkeycreek

We all speculate, it can be fun but it is essentially useless. No offense intended

No offense taken. You are wrong that speculation is useless. It is the very beginning of discovery and understanding.

[Turkeycreek]

[Pedro Navaja]

Originally Posted by BobLoblaw

Imagine this smothered in maple syrup

Imagine that smothering my face!

[acejones]

Originally Posted by Pedro Navaja

Imagine that smothering my face!

Maybe John Lennon was right !

Imagine

[dcstrom]

Originally Posted by MikeMike

People are paying attention to that norteno highway murder, but nobody paid any attention to the entire family that was shot and killed south of Veracruz, not far from Tuxtapec that happened just a short while after one rider on this forum passed through there.

Ejecutan a familia en la carretera Tuxtepec, Santa Cruz


ILDEFONSO PACHECO

Tuxtepec, Oax., 20 de Diciembre de 2012.- El pasado martes ejecutaron una pareja sentimental y un menor de edad Ismael Soto, chofer del ex pistolero Andrés Valencia Álvarez del ex tinto líder de la UGOCP, Margarito Montes Parra, cuatro sujetos que viajaban a bordo de un auto compacto de color gris, a la altura del paraje el Zapote pertenece a las Peñitas Veracruz.

MikeMike, are you talking about me? I left Tuxtapec on the 19th, shooting was on the 20th. I seem to be hitting the hot spots this trip - the Creel-Guanchochi road a week before the roadblock and murders there, then just missed out taking this route (from Miguelito "There was a gunfight around Guadalupe y Calvo, (west of parral on rt.24), not long ago and the area is definitely under the influence of cartel(s).") after an old guy at the OXXO, said "solo, no". Now Tuxtepec. And yet I haven't had a moment when I didn't feel safe. Lucky, stupid, or is there really not much the average rider needs to worry about? The way I look at it, your luck might run out one day, but that can happen anywhere anytime...

Oh and PS - this from the Google Translate version;
several shots at Tsuru that was located at the height of the congregation of San Antonio Texas Veracruz.

I nearly stopped there to take a pic of the town name, thought San Antonio Texas was kind of a weird name for a town in Mexico...

[dcstrom]

San Cristobal looks like it might be a cool place, could be a good next stop, only a few hours from Palenque - anyone know a good place to stay?

BTW Tricepilot, where do I find "your girl" in Palenque?

[Craneguy]

Originally Posted by dcstrom

San Cristobal looks like it might be a cool place, could be a good next stop, only a few hours from Palenque - anyone know a good place to stay?

BTW Tricepilot, where do I find "your girl" in Palenque?

DC, how long were you in the Veracruz area?

[tricepilot]

Originally Posted by dcstrom

BTW Tricepilot, where do I find "your girl" in Palenque?

Here's a map I just made for you.

The parking area shown on the left is the upper parking area which I've always called the main parking area. It is the parking location closest to the ruins. There is a lower parking area which will bring you in the "back" way to the main plaza, which involves an uphill hike all the way. I recommend the upper parking area which will bring you to the "main" entrance portal to the grand plaza.

Ester is usually to be located selling her artesanias behind The Palace. The dotted blue line is the suggested route from the main (upper) parking lot, past the Temple of the Inscriptions, around The Palace, to the area where you should find her. That spot is depicted by the red circle.

Give me an idea of when you'll be at Palenque and I'll let her know to be on the lookout for you. I'll also verify with her the spot you should find her.



Here is a photo of The Palace with a red arrow pointing behind it to the location I would expect you to find her, and the blue dotted line from the upper parking area. Once you arrive between at the spot between the Temple of the Inscriptions and the The Palace, you'll have to have a pretty good idea of what she looks like, as there are a lot of folks selling artesanias.



Let me know whether or not you have your Spanish down pretty good

[dcstrom]

SR, we were only discussing those taxis the other day weren't we? You decided to see what they are made of?

Originally Posted by SR

JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE VS. POS MADE IN INDIA TAXI